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‘The environment contains no information. The environment is as it is.’ von Foerster

Main difference between closed and open system.

No, I don’t think so. That turns a second-order point about observation and distinction into a first-order classification. The environment is as it is; information is what a system brings forth from it.

Will you join the @ruthmalan.bsky.social session on the Causal Textures? That's an open systems perspective with an environment that contains information and lots of it.