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I made this thread yesterday about Bluesky's decision that Jesse Singal shall stay on the platform. When I wrote it, I had like, a kind of six-post coda I decided not to include because it seemed ungainly, I wanted to make my thread succinct. But I wanna post this now. Continuing from this post:

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TLDR: Bluesky is, right now, a relatively safe and usable place for trans people. Jesse Singal is on this site with the goal of changing that, as I interpret his own words. The Bluesky staff, by saying they won't take action unless he breaks a specific rule, are saying they're just fine with that.

In 2014 I was a Twitter user. There was a pretty healthy little trans community there, we kept to ourselves, no one bothered us. Then a group called "gamergate" started targeting "sjw"s on the site, starting with my friends in indie games. Suddenly my community was targeted by swarms of sockpuppets…

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…and the community hollowed out, as people left facing harassment the site couldn't or wouldn't protect them from. Twitter decided not to moderate gamergate. And as a result, gamergate *became* Twitter's moderation team. Twitter gave them the power to decide who could/couldn't stay on the site.

Bluesky is looking down the same thing with Singal and Kiwifarms. By gifting Kiwifarms a respectable, centralized organization point that won't get banned as long as it follows easily gameable rules, Bluesky is making Kiwifarms its new effective moderation staff.

You mean Singal as a harassment hub, not that Kiwifarms is establishing itself openly here, right? I ask because I’m like 1/8 for reporting KF associated accounts, and the “doesn’t exist” accounts weren’t found in my block lists, so presumably deleted before I tried. 1/

I’ve seen what KF and related nasties do, I saw a Singal “colonize with normies” tweet. I “take them literally and seriously”. But from my vantage point, I don’t see their activity, all that’s really visible to me is inaction on Singal (and they did take down Linehan because he’s too stupid). 2/

You're literally insane if you think KF users will move to Bluesky or use it to organize. Protip, they already have their own site. Why would they need another additional site that they don't control? Plus they feel that this site is a liberal cesspool. Legitimately, why do you think this?

And the worst part for Bluesky is, this won't end when Singal is banned. (I don't think much of Singal's self control; I think he'll keep testing the envelope until he does something even Bluesky finds bannable.) The people he "colonized" this site with will stick around after he's gone.

I don’t want to minimize that because it does still require action, but I do think it’s at least an entire category lesser a problem. Knowingly allowing a bad actor of this magnitude to stay is a violation of trust that undoes the socio part of this sociotechnological system. No tech will fix that.

With Gamergate, the shift came when they went from organizing offsite (4chan, 8chan) with Twitter as *target*, to when they started organizing on Twitter *itself*. KF is already targeting this site; Bluesky Safety barely keeps them under control. Invite them inside, and you won't keep that control.