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In Bush era gestures at green tech, we briefly got excited about biodiesel. But in the US that meant corn, and experts got upset because corn biodiesel is negative EROI. I saw one person describe it as "a corn disposal method". In that sense, I posit Bitcoin and AI to be "compute disposal methods".

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decades of caring about big O, and now its just "throw more agents at it"

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I’ve never understood this position on biodiesel. I’ve had discussions with people who insist biodiesel isn’t viable because it isn’t net positive. When I point out that oil is a limited resource and corn is basically unlimited, they just stare at me and blink.

1. Different researchers have measured EROI in different ways. But my understanding is most biodiesels are EROI+. Corn is special. Corn is fucked up. Corn is the One Bad Biodiesel and it seems to only be created for US political reasons. Growing sugarcane biodiesel in south america is Good Biodiesel

2. If you think about it, biodiesel is like solar power that you can store in liquid form. Imagine biodiesel is EROI=1 and that *all* energy consumed in the biodiesel growing process comes from a nuclear fusion plant somewhere. This makes sense. 1 unit of fusion power = 1 unit of liquid vehicle gas.

But. First off. You're not getting the power from a fusion plant, are you? The power is being spent all over the place, you've got trucks on the corn fields, you've got harvesters, you've got the plant that reduces to biodiesel. Some of that will be electric vehicles or clean energy. Some won't…

The US has immovable political forces that mean huge amounts of corn must be grown. More than we can eat. We must figure out some way of justifying it on paper. Similarly, the hardware industry *has* to make bigger, more powerful chips all the time. What if demand doesn't exist? We manufacture it

This has been my explanation for a lot of tech nonsense since moore's law died ~2016. The biggest part of our economy simply could not be allowed to stagnate, so they've been thrashing around looking for ways to sell more, newer computers. Crypto, metaverse, nft, AI, even ray tracing to an extent.

I'd really like to be able to use raytracing. Like I'd really, *really* like to be able to. Unfortunately it's locked in a box of baffling APIs

even if it was clearly *mostly* a way for nvidia to sell new cards where most of the performance improvement came from juicing the watts, raytracing has some legit cool uses!

You know, I had the thought that the LLM craze was due to hardware companies realizing they couldn't make transistors any smaller, so they couldn't rely on selling new chips to everyone every 3-5 years, so the only way they could keep growing was if the world needed *more* hardware.

I dismissed it as too close to a conspiracy theory, but the comparison to biodiesel (and E10/E15 gas) has me wondering. Plus "OpenAI/Anthropic":"NVIDIA"::"The Strategic Federal Food Reserve":"The US dairy industry" is pretty funny, to me.