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pretty cool: deer.social configured to point to a self-hosted bsky appview which reads from a self-hosted relay which subscribes to a self-hosted PDS which is where this "hello world" post originated it's bluesky independent from bluesky

do you still have to use bsky's auth to run a relay like this?

well im not into all the technical specifics, but certain people have told me that bluesky is not federated because you still have to connect to bsky's authentication servers to login. is that no longer true because people are running their own relays?

If you're logging into a Bluesky PDS you need to use the Auth of that PDS. If you're running your own PDS you log into your own PDS. Bluesky doesn't have centralised Auth.

so that auth data never touches bsky's servers if you're running your own instance? i thought that was not the case for pds

I suspect this person is referring to plc.directory, slightly telephone gamed

hm this document has too much jargon for me to understand, can you explain how this works if you have a second? i know you're probably busy lol

Yeah no worries! Basically, this is the service that Bluesky uses to say which user ID is yours. That’s why I think maybe the people who were talking to you were referencing it; it’s run by Bluesky and so even if you run your own version of the app, you have to check in with it