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I have no doubt... it is likely killing people: but the question has to be asked.. is it also saving lives?... we need the science on that.. meanwhile lack of vaccines Kill people

And like Ozempic it will cost less then half in Europe compared with the US. Why?

Not fast. It's an exception not the norm. But Oooops...this is forbes.

Then what? You shoot up for the rest of your life? May as well do heroin.

Carbs are the issue ... Carbs turn into SUGAR

Stop the Fast Food

Been there done that (keto when it was still Atkins - I'm that old) after end of 1st marriage when 25yrs younger, had comparable loss/time. It does NOT work the same now. At all. Now, instead, is nonalcoholic cirrhotic liver as a result of that old diet. be very cogniscient & monitor diligently

Works but this. if you dont diet exercise.. its a waste of MONEY.. period... to maintain ..cant sit on fat ass and eat everything!! BS MS and workout dude used GLP to.. LEAN DOWN..but also EXERCISE.. DIET ADJUSTMENT...

So is that weight muscle or fat?

Yeah, a whole lot of foods just don’t taste right anymore. Sometimes it’s a battle to consume enough food to keep the blood sugar from crashing.

Damn, that sounds miserable.

Depending on the argument you want to make, I don't think cigarettes are a good comparison. Also, I agree that there will be long term effects, many of which are documented. But arguing that there is risk without acknowledging the reward is just beating up scarecrows.

while GLP-1 was discovered over 40yrs ago it took decades to stabilize & wasn’t prescribed until 2010 for some diabetics, long term effects of its weight loss capabilities aren’t considered fully researched as non-diabetics are now using it & it’s gone from 10lbs in a yr to possibly 100lbs in a yr

Totally agree. We're already seeing blindness but I think it'll get worse.

Cool. Happy for you.

... but only mass marketed and abused now for a few months.

sometimes things are good, like cooking your food

Gee, I never thought to try that, thank you!!

And the majority of the patients will have deserved it.

Yeah, we're entering the phase of overuse. Let's see how that goes.

No doubt that disciplined use of wegovy will improve health for those who need it, but human nature being as it is there will be many cases of abuse leading to problems.

Ok. I guess we'll see.

Lawsuits: As of February 2026, thousands of lawsuits (MDL 3094) are pending, alleging that manufacturers failed to properly warn of the risks of gastroparesis and other severe stomach conditions.

Holy shit.. "youre a curmudgeon for recognizing the ramifications of using chemicals used in a way not fully tested" means you're a dullard who thinks his ignorance is virtuous.

I don't think the issue is directly with the drug, but it's ultimate misuse by people who cannot discipline themselves.

Yeah, for diabetes. Unless you have diabetes, you don't know the impact it will have long term on the body. Dealing with a different body chemistry when someone non-diabetic uses the drugs meant for people with diabetes.

I'm worried about pancreatic issues. It is a silent killer and usually doesn't show major symptoms until it's too late.

Not saying they shouldn't help out, but using an FSA along with the money you save by eating less and eating out less offsets a lot of the cost.

I can’t WAIT to live in a country where EVERYONE is WHITE, THIN and has stainless steel appliances! Individualism is so inconvenient.

But they're not reporting news, the posting pharma ads.

11 months 7 lbs. I lose more traveling & walking thru sights & cities. Too bad I can't afford 12 months of vacationing.

Showed me stroke like symptoms in my face in the 11th month & $10k hospital bill. Lost in all of 7lbs in 11 months while causing constant nausea, orthostatic hypotension, severe muscle weakness & aspirations while sleeping. That shit almost joplin'd me multiple times. Report on that.

Glad you didn't. Truly sucks to wake out of sleep desperate to breath thanks to throat constriction from the inhaled stomach acids & reflux. Don't think I'd wish it on anyone else.

And lo and behold, when semiglutide comes off patent in a few years we'll definitely be told it isn't that effective after all, but the new Novo Nordisk XYZ drug costing ten times higher than generic semiglutide is a "game changer" and is set to revolutionise public health. All so predictable.

I believe twumpee pee pushes this on his drug site because he gains profits from it

Tax the rich!

I'm in this boat. Mounjaro helps my insulin resistance. A1C is 6.2, fasting glucose around 95. Initially lost 20%, plateaued, gained half of that back when my endocrinologist won't bump me to 10.

An underperforming pancrea can't 'change behavior'. I come fr a long line of diabetics (type I & II); Wegovy a key tool to prevent my pre-diabetes fr becoming Type II. I work out (hard) almost daily, watch carbs, get 10 plant-based ingredients per meal, cut out sugar yrs ago, & not obese.

You are an asshole. Not just for this comment, but in general. It's why you do this. It's your pint of ice cream, your sleeve of cookies. You like the chemicals your body feeds you when you do this. Because you *know* you're a shitty person and you desperately want to feel better than someone.

The consistency of these findings among animals living in varying environments, suggests ...possibility that the aetiology of increasing body weight may involve ...unidentified and/or poorly understood factors (e.g. viral pathogens, epigenetic factors). royalsocietypublishing.org/rspb/article...

We live in a world where children are raped and killed, guys get guns and shoot up schools, people destroy their lives for drugs, billionaries buy politicians to have a few more billions, countries go to war for oil and resources and you are suprised some pople struggle with weight loss??

evolution. we are programmed to act like food is scarce even when it’s not because our survival used to depend on it

Sometimes, it's past injuries that have not healed that play a part. Imagine every day not being able to do even mild exercise that could make a difference because of pain. It's an expensive medicine that can be transformative and will carry risks that have to be weighed up.

Yes, people need drugs for this. It is either that or tracking calories with programs like weight watchers. If it weren't hard for them, they wouldn't be obese.

Next time you have a fever, try to not be so hot.

It's hard for some people, but I think diet is a big factor. If you eat fiber and protein rich, healthy food you'll stay full for a lot longer and it becomes way easier. If instead you eat low fiber food, empty carbs & precooked/ultraprocessed crap, you'll feel hungry much faster and it gets harder.

Been on this drug for approx 2 years for diabetes, zero side effects, of which weight loss is one. My diabetes numbers are perfect, never lost a single gram. Seems the drug is pushed more for weight loss these days than for diabetes. Money money money, it's all they care about.

It will be fascinating to see what the fat guinea pigs end up getting in exchange for taking these drugs.

Some they won't tell you about. But I have my experiences with.

Yes.

I would rather lose weight the old fashioned way diet and exercise. I’m implementing a plan right now But to be fair some times that doesn’t work because of underlying issues. So I’m not going to knock those who take shots. Hell I might need the shot one day.

And the side effects were? And the long term effects were?

The *VAST* majority of so-called "patients" are simply lazy, big-backed fat bodies who have not even tried putting down their forks and going for a walk. The US obese largely deserve the stigma they carry.

Had to stop it after only 3 weeks my lower abdomen and side was extremely painful not for me

Living proof they're not

The weight loss really messes with the tiddies.

It won't happen here cause it's too expensive

Per month

How expensive and sustainable is it? There are Ozempic hangovers out there.

Also possible to lose substantial amounts of body weight by moving more and eating less.

Body weight or body fat? 21% of muscle, fat and bone?

Sarcasm font is broken

I was put on Mounjaro and am Officially no longer suffering from Diabetes II.

What percentage of that was muscle?

Trumpistan and Mar-a-lagistas are sooo dependent on European tech: ozempic, insuline, and now this 🤣

But vaccines? Not so much.