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> sick of the robots on the street sharing our space, we didnt consent to that brother you have consent completely fucked up, you cannot consent on behalf of the street dawg

"we didn't consent to" is a 99.9% efficient indicator of an absolute dogshit perspective inbound, just full disconnect from reality, because imagining communal consent to the actions of others requires this

Yes, right along with "nobody asked for this!!" which obviously someone did

What on earth are you talking about? Nobody asked for Google to spy on its users so egregiously that legislation had to be drawn up to get them to seek “permission”, which they then strongarmed publishers into gaining via cookie banners. *Obviously* some PM asked for that… but so what?!

People have a constitutionally* protected reasonable expectation of privacy though, and neither Google’s ability to provide features, nor the indifference of some users, justifies violating (or papering over) a legal right *not referring solely to the US here

if you mentally delete "no one asked for this" from one's polemic toolbox and replace it with "why would this ever happen" the latter basically always has an answer that if internalized makes your protest more effective. "why did google spy on us?" - to make ads """better""". that leads to more whys

I don’t think disallowing the assertion that a behaviour is unwanted is effective either: one can simultaneously deny that consent was given and ask what would motivate the actor

conceptually? but in practice the correlations are pretty consistent. even you here, afaict you don't actually make a habit of 'no one asked for this' posting; your view of nuance seems to generally preclude that maybe i'm oversimplifying what would help others, idk

"No one asked for cookies" meanwhile you see people complaining about paywalls every day. Well, that's why ads exist and once ads exist the buyers want to know who they are advertising to. This is all the result of preferences people state out loud all the time! And most things are like that.

yeah no one who doesn't rack boxes or pay aws bills really thinks at all about how fucking expensive the internet will be when it no longer does all the shit-they-hate

'no one asked' is also subtly shibboleth-shaped in that it communicates "i am not going to consider entire categories of whys"; if you were you'd get to the person who asked. so when i read it, i know not to bother with certain expectations to think things through, which is probably also suboptimal!

and at the bottom, taking it at face value, it's approximately a nonsentence. "no one asked (except the person who did ask, ofc)" is most things! very rarely is there a groundswell that predates any action; most solutions have to be sold!