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the big difference between procgen and "ai" is that procgen is straightforwardly a creative/authoring process like any other, whereas "ai" by its nature precludes both things. but even with procgen you can approach it from a cynical direction and fuck yourself www.joewintergreen.com/an-insult-to...

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18/12/25, 10:59 pm49 reposts149 likes

Ryan Mattson

@rmattson.bsky.social

18 Dec 2025

"you might never figure out you're getting ripped off" 👏👏👏

SpacePrez

@spaceprez.bsky.social

18 Dec 2025

Good procgen is always MORE work than hand-crafting content, not LESS. Sometimes its still worth it, but its only sometimes, because again, MORE work.

Joe Wintergreen

@joewintergreen.com

18 Dec 2025

more critical though to realise is that there simply Does Not Need to be a straight line you can draw between two things, in order for you to be against just one of them you never need devise a rule that perfectly categorises every instance into one of two things. you cannot live a boolean life

Joe Wintergreen

@joewintergreen.com

18 Dec 2025

people are always trying to navigate using rules, and then falling back in defeat the second an issue isn't comfortably binary, "eh it's complicated!", instead of thinking. you have a brain instead of a calculator so that you can not get fooled in this way

Joe Wintergreen

@joewintergreen.com

18 Dec 2025

there are about a million "meaningful differences" between LLMs and procgen... "meaningful" does not mean "allowing for perfectly exclusive categorisation". there's actually very many differences and similarities between good and bad things