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That's why you have to tax them appropriately. That's the coexistence. Companies can still make money. Shareholders will still be making money. Just not as MUCH money. If you make $5M on investment returns this year, but make $4M on return next year, you're still a millionaire.

This week, right wingers were lauding Musk as the 1st trillionaire and complaining that Dems were again calling for higher taxes on the wealthy and essentially saying that the poor would starve if we didn't coddle the very wealthy.

You cannot buy an election in Sweden. Therein lies the real difference. Thus said billionaire can be taxed at leisure. They will of course whine and moan and flap their gums about moving to the Caymans or Switzerland, but they rarely do and when they do, good riddance.

Yeah, I dont understand why Americans think the prospect of billionaires taking their companies out of America is a bad thing. They still need thus market. They wouldn't dare leave it. We ARE consumers. If we can afford it, we will buy it, so that is leverage we should be using.

Particularly because they aren’t paying mentionable taxes in the first place and most jobs in the highly profitable sectors will go to AI next year anyway. So employee income tax will evaporate from the sector anyways

Yes, and regulated. Tip the scales in either direction and that imbalance causes chaos and decline. Balance, as in most things, leads to harmony and better quality of life and more equitable outcomes for all. The greed and entitlement of the wealthy is the problem.

Everyone should pay a level of tax appropriate for their income and governments should pay for fundamental social programs (universal healthcare, education, infrastructure etc.). This simple concept is clouded by ideology, greed and asymmetrical political power, usually associated with money.

It really is. Sweden’s wealth gap has been widening for decades and is growing at a faster pace than other Nordic countries and with that a corresponding increase in crime and decrease in health outcomes.

There is another country in North America who's been on this path for a while now. Weighed down by the cultural/political weight of its nearest neighbour, but still committed to this path.

Capitalism works best when it doesn’t have power over the state. When the state is a democracy, this usually means it works best for the society. In the USA, lawmakers made the error of allowing capitalism to masquerade as a voter, with more power. The result: capitalism has overpowered the state.

I recently met a group of young Europeans from several nations who were taking risks and starting businesses in Barcelona. In part, they could do so because there is a basic social safety net to help them as they're getting started and catch them, if they fall.

Universal healthcare and strong social security are great. We should also aim for free education to university level, a green economy ..... and much more. But having these things would not justify the gross accumulation of wealth. There is NO sociatal need for billionaires (or trillionaires).

Life is not a zero-sum game. When everyone is provided with a base level of "good", we all do well ($$$$). My empathy doesn't make me weak. Empathy works with my self-interest. My humanity is what makes me a man.

It seems to me that trust in govt is one of the biggest drivers. I’m all for upping the minimum prison stay for government corruption. It should be very painful and non-paroleable as it’s our tax money they are stealing or misappropriating.

True, the Sweden model is: 1) Earned income tax rates commonly range from 30% to over 50%, for EVERY taxpayer starting at krona 1 2) VAT tax on consumption: 25% 3) Capital gains: 30% tax The impact is HUGE for the bottom 50% of USA taxpayers to go to that model to fund social programs.

What this truly says is that Americans have lost their sense of social pragmatism (maybe they never really had it) and instead let it morph into sociopathic self-interest, cultural exploitation, division, and control of the mechanisms of opinion.