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Whew. I can confirm that the people who aren't ready to talk about it *really* don't wanna talk about it. Many people will only accept violent rejection of LLM tech. And if you're doing anything other than that, you must be either the enemy or an ignorant rube.

yes. this is making it *really hard* to have the tough conversations we have to be collectively having about this stuff, and it frankly worries me

Honestly, I think it's pretty much always like this. This is why tackling these ethical issues is so difficult. You can't expect most people to engage thoughtfully. And if we're blocked on that, we can't take action to protect them anyway.

there's a certain set of people here who believe that if you are part of an imperfect system, you can never be trusted.

Yeah I get it. I've definitely been the person on the outside as well.

the crypto part of your thread really resonated with me because i am 99% "yes crypto is bad." the 1% is the trans folks i know who describe it as a good way to, for example, get black market hrt. but i also didn't come to the "it's bad" stance without trying to actually learn about + engage with it

yeah and my worry is that 1% of folks don't understand exactly how hard it is to preserve opsec while using it for the purpose they think it's good for, which is going to land them in jail for fincrimes. cash is a better option a vast majority of the time for even that use case.