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In the 90s, my design prof made us make clay figures and line them on a ledge. The next day we came to find clay bits smattered all over the floor. You passed the assignment if your figure was still on the ledge. Most weren’t.

Nate Piekos of Blambot@blambot.bsky.social

People who will actually spend time to contact me about how much they don't like my work are hilarious. I was in design school in the 90s. Critiques back then were brutal. People left the room crying. Professors tore you apart while looking you directly in the eyes. You ain't got nothing on that.

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College art programs certainly have a reputation for being extremely classist. If your art doesn't match what the wealthy 1% thinks is art, your art is "bad". Which they'll defend with a non-answer or a load of pedantic, intellectual BS. That said, my experience with that is entirely secondhand.

Ugh hate this kind of teaching. It was esp annoying when the rude teacher took all the credit for good student work and used them as trophies, proof that his methods worked. The students who came out of that "better" would've done so without that "help." Their work was great in other classes too.

That's true, there were some good students who would have been good no matter what. They weren't suddenly good because of the teacher's methods.

'You suck, and you'll continue to suck, so suck it up' (I think the actual course was either design fundamentals or clay fundamentals though)

So... you're saying that the only thing I missed out on art school is someone making me violently crash out via verbal abuse? You know, being too poor to afford any sort of professional occupation might be better for my mental health than I thought.

(2005-08) I avoided being a target, but in one class I had, a student had their assignment ripped up by the instructor in front of everyone. There was a lot of "this sucks redo it". Some of the instructors would practically bully students that were not very good artists

I don't like how they destroy students work as part of "the lesson" and think it's not just instilling anxiety and stress rather than empowering students. It would suck to even want to look at whether your figures were still there :/

I think the rationale back then was ‘the real world is rough so we have to get you used to it’. Idk if it was like that in earlier times, but by the 00s, bosses & clients never hurled stuff across the room 🤷🏻‍♀️

Yeah I understand that for the most part, and I agree to an extent for sure. Being ok with rejections and redoing stuff makes sense. But yeah I'm not sure if physical destruction happens with real clients/studios if they don't like it

Also experienced this kind of teaching, though indirectly (saw it happen in the room across the hall.) I never got my work publicly destroyed, but I definitely got some brutal verbal critiques and more brutal grades. I was the sort who had always done well academically and had a chip on my shoulder-

So it may have actually been a net gain for my personality to learn that not only was I not the best, I wouldn’t ever be. I stuck it out and learned a lot. A LOT of people quit though, and it definitely messed a lot more people up.

I will say I have consistently been appreciated by art directors for taking critique well and responding quickly, but I can’t help but feel there might be nicer ways to learn that skill.

I dropped out (there were other factors but I also wasn't enjoying the program). I just learned on the job, I guess... and client feedback and changes were never abusive (except for the budget maybe lol).

Prof was a national award winner so he could more or less do as he pleased. It's just part of that 'tough love' shit that gen of profs seemed to like to do (really I think they were just jerks that finally got some power).

Definitely an asshole move! Any art teacher who truly loved art & the art making process would never think to do to that to aspiring artists & their work. 😡

I left after 1 year. I felt like this is BS & I wasn’t learning what I wanted. Instead of getting thick skin, what I learned was that some people in this industry are difficult, & you either work with that, or walk away when it gets too much. Thankfully my actual clients have never been as bad.

I never studied art in a formal setting, but that reminds me of my friend's story, Prof. inspecting his illustration made to pass the course: "This, in principle, is fine as it is, but you don't have the right mindset to pass this course yet, so bring me another next month."

Ah I see, teaching students to deal with nebulous feedback by making it their job to do 100 revisions to get it right. Versus learning to say 'ok, if this is not working for you, let me know why, and what I can do to fix it' :/