Arguing with libertarans on Something Awful’s Laissez’ Faire in 2008 proved this for me. Well yes you have a set of axioms that ‘prove’ seatbelt laws are violence, but they also ‘prove’ that so is being required to feed your kids. Rigorous, logical, meaningless and self-indulgent debate.
The fetishisation of "debate" as some sort of grand public good that everyone should do is so thoughtless and jarring to me because the more you actually do it the more it becomes apparent that genuinely constructive debate is actually a pretty niche thing.
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