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RhomanĀ¢eršŸ§Œ
@angussoftware.dev

Seeing this take a lot in last couple hours but when exactly was this most feasible? IMHO any labor action taken in last 30 years leads to workers immediately being replaced by scabs and the action failing. Any sort of labor actions probs have lead to more firing than we realize, & I would argue...

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RhomanĀ¢eršŸ§Œ
@angussoftware.dev

5 of the 6 presidential adminis and most state gov'ts have been unfriendly to unions and labor power generally. Seems like little has changed and there will be little hope of forming solidarity in such a labor unconcious era where most think they're 1 career move away from being the boss

RhomanĀ¢eršŸ§Œ
@angussoftware.dev

Maybe I haven't read enough theory or I'm too doomer but I'd love to be enlightened and given revolutionary optimism but things seem bleak for "software developer unions"

skyking
@jkachmar.com

if you wanted the most leverage; some time between 2020 & 2022 we had by far the most leverage as labor in this industry. honestly though collective action could have been effective with a hostile admin any time from 2015 - 2022 (excluding the first 6-ish months of COVID?)

RhomanĀ¢eršŸ§Œ
@angussoftware.dev

By the 2016 it was probably too late IMO, India had more than enough workers to scab by then. I'm thinking the answer is closer to 2012-2015 but even then it's dismal

Singularity's Bounty e/CC@catblanketflower.yuwakisa.com

Esp now with remote work The owners would just move up their plan to offshore the shop by 5 years

skyking
@jkachmar.com

i think the biggest barrier isnā€™t actually any external force like evil DOJ or nega-NLRB, but the tendency for the software industry (and its financiers) to struggle with cooperative business models. a lot of software engineers are very liberal and also think CEO is a job that makes sense to exist.