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MelodiSmol
@melodismol.gay

I'm glad there's a response, but the team that is supposedly "struggling" to make a decision on banning AI needs to get a full reality check, no one wants AI except for people with no actual creativity in their minds. I really hope you guys take the right steps about the additional feedback.

fargo
@fargo.dev

Nuance genuinely is important here. As one example, asking an LLM tool to “make me a quest version of my avatar” is not generating any art, it’s an optimization task. I don’t think that someone who just wants their quest friends to be able to see them should have to use the “AI” avatar label.

Skai is a Wahderg @ ASC?
@apfelskai.art

Hard to respect your nuanced take when it involves pretending optimization, and the idea of tech art in general, is somehow lesser than the visual art. LLMs stealing from GitHub isn't inherently better than midjourney stealing from ArtStation If it's generated it's genAI

fargo
@fargo.dev

I've studied optimization for years, and am now considering a career move to tech art, I spoke with a mentor about this not even a week ago. So I care about these things quite a lot. AI image gen, to me, seems to directly displace the work of artists in a way that LLMs do not.

fargo
@fargo.dev

My LLM-authored tools for non-uniform decimation, frequency feature reconstruction for normal map downsampling, and automated atlassing are some examples. To me and my mentor, this improves my value as an aritst (he encouraged me to pursue this as an employable niche) but I welcome a second opinion

Skai is a Wahderg @ ASC?
@apfelskai.art

I'm not planning to get into the weeds about tools made using LLMs as programming guides. There's a nuanced discussion to be had about that elsewhere. I would say that's different than "chapt bbd make my model android compatible." The lack of intent, possible theft, and risk of spam is way higher.

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Skai is a Wahderg @ ASC?
@apfelskai.art

That said even in your case of making tools by utilizing LLMs... Do you respect the work of the people who made the libraries it scraped to inform your code? Are you okay with your own work being obfuscated and replaced once your tools have been scraped? I'm curious what your comfortable limit is.