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I find myself switching back and forth between Safari and Arc still. It's hard to give up the renameable vertical tabs, but their recent hard pivots into AI leave is ehh... not something I care about

i mean, yeah you can just talk to me wherever you like (*・ω・)ﾉ

Fwiw I personally don't think the price is wrong. $20 is (sadly) the price of a good cocktail here in NYC now so how one would complain about paying that for a piece of software they use hours a day is hard to grasp. That being said, you're "competing" in a market where "Free" is commonly...

Totally understand, and I love your transparency on profit!

I made the switch few years ago, glad your enjoying it

It’s been my default browser for about a decade.

When my wife tells me that a site isn't working properly I remind her to try Chrome and it fixes her issues without fail. The fact that you need a Mac to test Safari means it often goes untested.

It's still the only browser I can't test for my websites since I don't own an Apple computer. As long as this is true, Safari will occasionnally get browser support issues.

Sorry I’m a shill for Arc now and nothing can change me 😩 Except for Zen which adopts similar philosophy for tabs but is based on Firefox, which makes it close contender whose development I’m keeping an eye on.

I've tried several browsers including Arc, which felt very pretentious first round project, Zen,Vivaldi. You were right; Safari is what we were looking for. Now I just need to figure out how to set my Google Meets to open in my work profile instead of my personal profile.

App ideas, quick things I jot down when on phone like appts (which I then add to calendar), diagrams using Apple Pencil on iPad, AI Prompts and with latest iOS update I can now record phone calls and save to notes. Anything that requires a bit more of a system ends up in Notion.

Oh that must be why they don't plan on implementing webusb/webserial. Great for users to have to switch browsers to use things like the meshtastic webflasher. They love that.

Dev tools: I was warned that I’d miss Chrome devtools. The lack of extensions like React is a crime. Still, the essentials are here: CSS grid lines, quick select with cmd + shift + C, good storage and network tabs. It also feels less cluttered.

What was the reason for the experiment?

Nice! I was this 🤏 close to make the switch however… I’m missing in safari a few extensions that I heavily heavily use: vimium (vimari is ok but not there), web search navigator, and enhanced YouTube, and Bitwarden (passwords is fine but not there too)

🤯 cannot fathom. Like listening to the advantages of eating ground glass.

I'm just hate myself when I had to fix ton of weird issues on safari when release new sites

I thought it was LinkedIn for a bit there 😉

Was thinking about switching but a friend mentioned issues with google meet. And also having a primary browser means I am opening devtools in many random scenerios for whatever random reason. But didn't get used to the devtools yet. Maybe I will use it as my personal browser and other for work

I have to had Chrome installed for some in-house sites that do not play the standards game. Otherwise 99% Safari, and done so since Safari came out.

I also really like the performance tooling that Safari offers. It is so much more opinionated and information scares than the chrome performance tooling. This gives a clearer direction where to optimize for and is easier to get started with.

What’s wrong with Chrome?

❤️ Safari, my default for a few years now. It just feels better for browsing and working in productivity apps. However, Chrome is unbeaten as being an integral part of my dev environment.

I want to make the move but I got so used to the tab management in Arc that the friction is too high. Still trying though.

I’ve been giving it a go too, it’s pretty nice. Similar feelings as you noted. Still mainly on Brave though.

Alternately: I just started a windows job and I’m RDPing into the laptop they gave me from my Mac. Become ungovernable.

Shrug. I use Chrome on those and don’t expect tab sync. I like Safari what can I say.