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He continues to push - I do not put it past him to plant violent 'protesters' amongst peaceful protesters. I also think the ICE raids are meant to incite violence and he continues to push. His end goal - whether a protest or a raid - is violence so that he can declare martial law & suspend elections

The problem is that the MSM outlets won’t even bother to broadcast these protests unless there is violence. If there’s violence, it’ll be so that trump can call for martial law & really turn us into a full blown fascist police state. And I would put $ on it that this is the regime’s ultimate plan.

Can y'all stop with this bullshit? Everyone that might oppose Fascism spicier than your permitted, government permitted "protests" is not some rightwing infiltrator. And if that "protest" is all you have to resist, stay home and post online as activism.

Oh, someone blocked an ICE van or threw a water bottle?!? Oops, better comply with the cops! Everyone sit down out of the way and behave! Can't obstruct the ICE officers during our completely ignored peaceful protest as they kidnap our neighbors!!! Everyone be nice to the ICE agents!!!

Total bad faith misrepresentation of the proposed reaction to violent agitators. The proposal is the best way to get more people into the streets which is what Yrumpfears, than reacting to violent agitators and playing into Trump's hands.

If everyone acts as if anyone doing more than clever signs at approved protests is a violent agitator, then there's no point. If any real resistance is "playing into Trump's hand", then there's no point in resisting. You're either impotent or serving him if you believe that. You aren't Gandhi.

Build a real in person community of protesters that knows how to deal with infiltrators or provocateurs. But if you just assume everyone protesting beyond a clever sign is a rightwing agent, you just want political rallies that stay out of the way of Fascists.

Real protesting is disruptive, it interrupts what the state is trying to do. YOU MIGHT GET IN TROUBLE. Showing up with a clever sign then running the moment YOU might face consequences... that's just going to a political rally. Are you fighting, or just performing with a clever sign?

It’s not a strong enough base of people willing with violence and consequences. Considering people are being detained for posting negative shit about the administration while hopping planes for vacation though… So what’s the solution that doesn’t get chunks important of people kidnapped?

This is exactly what people shouldn't do. The state doesn't need an 'excuse' to become militarized, kill people, and crack down with repression it's already doing it. The question is, will people push back and disrupt in massive numbers, using collective power.

When that happens, when people go from actually using direct action, as oppose to passive, symbolic forms of protest, or looking to politicians who created this mess for salvation, the media and other elite forces will attempt to divide people between "good" and "bad" protesters.

What you're advocating is to do that in advance, as opposed to spreading what is already happening: people pushing back with collective strength when possible in a variety of ways.

He's going to declare it anyway, so we need to declare it on our own, on our own terms. And regardless if it's declared, they're in for good. We can no longer trust any more elections from here on out. Even if we win at the ballot box, they will revoke it somehow. Look at Mo and it's fascist move🤬

I posted this or similar message this morning. Stating on 6/14, especially in DC, to be on the alert for people in our marches stirring up trouble and causing division. They are moles/insurgents/agents of the right amongst us. They want us under martial law and curfews

During the summer of unrest, we had agitators shipped in by White Supremacists. Luckily protest planners worked with law enforcement and the FBI to apprehend them before they caused much harm.

Damn, I thought you were being sarcastic for a second. But you might be serious?? You were protesting against police, while reporting people you *thought* might be agitators to THE POLICE?? That's exactly why Fascism is going to win. You're just a collaborator.

Actually a really shitty example that doesn't make your point. At least do the Boog guy that caught charges for shooting at the police station or the umbrella guy busting Autozone windows in MPLS in 2020

Of course this can happen. But you know, it can work against your own best interests. Dig: IF the hired goon pretending to protest is effective in their masquerade? Many legit may follow and soon overwhelm any way of maintaining control. Covert ops are just that: more likely done in quiet.

Excellent solution. I’ve also been advocating for filming in most areas at any given time to live stream possible police brutality. Consistently so you don’t have to hear the bull about… “well the woman had to do something the be brutally handled (unarmed) by 6 cops.