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Greg Pak
@gregpak.net

If this is accurate, WeTransfer is unusable for professional creative work. Would violate most work-for-hire contracts to share copyrighted material with a third party like this.

Rami Ismail (رامي)@ramiismail.com

Bye forever, WeTransfer.

Greg Pak
@gregpak.net

And obviously, you'd never want to give up the rights to your own creator-owned work to a fucking file transfer service like this.

Greg Pak
@gregpak.net

Hoping Dropbox is still cool! If not, I guess the FTP service associated with my website is gonna get a workout for the first time in a decade or so!

Greg Pak
@gregpak.net

Relatedly, did I mention I'm an "A.i." abolitionist? Because I'm an "A.i." abolitionist. bsky.app/profile/greg...

Greg Pak@gregpak.net

I'm an "A.i." abolitionist. No consumer-facing LLMs or generative "A.i." in anything. Sure, machine learning in science and a few other limited applications is fine. But consumer-facing LLMs and generative "A.i." that are based on theft, push disinfo, and can be manipulated by billionaires? No.

Greg Pak
@gregpak.net

IMPORTANT UPDATE: @dylanreeve.com has noticed that the language including the "machine learning" and "publicly display" phrases are NOT in the US TOS - just in the TOS for folks OUTSIDE of the US. See below for a link to the US TOS. bsky.app/profile/dyla...

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Greg Pak
@gregpak.net

What does this mean? Is WeTransfer not going to use the content of US users to train its machine learning content moderation system? And is it not claiming those seemingly expanded "public display" rights from US users? Or did it just not have the legal need to specify for the US TOS? I don't know!

Greg Pak
@gregpak.net

Looking forward very much to hearing what WeTransfer has to say about all of this and if they're able or willing to clarify the TOS language. In the meantime, I'm personally going to avoid using their services.

Dave Bagpuss Forsey 🧃
@bagpuss.org

If I am reading it correctly, it seems that now both US and non-US terms are changed to remove the 'commercializing' license and machine learning stuff. On archive.org we can see that the terms earlier had the offending text for both US and non-US.

Dave Bagpuss Forsey 🧃@bagpuss.org

It would appear that WeTransfer have now vastly simplified their terms document to remove the stuff about machine learning. But the date at the top still says it was last updated on June 23.

Lori O.
@loriao.bsky.social

My husband is Creative Director at his company and they use WeTransfer. I shared your posts with him and we don't believe an employee using WeTransfer to share company creative can legally consent to the TOS. In any case, he said they won't continue using WeTransfer. Thanks for the heads up.