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Increasingly of the opinion that the correct answer to the Trolley Problem is "fuck you, why are you so fixated on finding reasons to justify killing people?"

Like the constant Trolley Problem chatter feels linked to the over-eagerness of the Yglesiases and Newsoms of the world to find vulnerable people to sacrifice for the greater good. Like it's a way to make HURTING people somehow seem VIRTUOUS. No thanks!

Kobayashi Maru that shit. The whole premise is bullshit. Shut the trolley down. No one needs to die.

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I vaguely remember a quote along the lines of 'Someone fixated on debating lifeboat ethics on dry land takes joy in imagining himself the officer with the pistol, deciding who lives and dies'. It's a sadists pastime.

and continually point out that the reason the trolley is shut down is because people have been tied to tracks, and that there is absolutely no reason people should be tied to trolley tracks; people tied to tracks is not a natural state of affairs for people or tracks

Now let's not be hasty. Sure the trolley kills a lot of people but have you considered that it gets me to work on time? Let's not abandon this form of low carbon public transport because of a few broken eggs.

See also: people quoting "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few (or the one)" to justify inflicting negative consequences on a minority. This argument is about people choosing to make a sacrifice. It's only valid *if you are one of the few* (or the one) making that choice.