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Perhaps also something much deeper that comes with setting records for trophies in the past > a sense of entitlement in that you always win bc you wear the badge, especially players a generation on. Not just the players - all levels of the club ... ie they have lost the plot & don't turn up.

Better football governance should have stopped the Glazers taking nearly £1 billion out of the club and over the same period better football governance should have stopped Mansour putting nearly £1 billion into city.

That and every sports team Monaco Jim gets involved with goes from solid gold to solid scrap.

Fans keep paying...Glazers/Ratcliffe keep benefiting. The only thing that would get me back to Old Trafford would be fan ownership and we know that is not likely to happen, even with a 'socialist' football loving PM

Same as United were with Mike Ashley in charge, and for the same reasons

Glazers ownership didn't stop Ferguson's success. Glazers making a lot of money out of the club. Piled huge debt on the club. But the club has still been spending big. The return on that spending hasn't come up with success.