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This is a great informational thread that is clarifying, but doesn't really negate my actual issue. While the personal freedoms are nice perks, you're still being paid criminally low wages. The point still stands, that $5-10 a day even with a 1 dollar bump is allowing the state to side step funding.

I promise I'm not trying to be stubborn, but I'm sorry. When we're looking at and questioning pictures of black and brown teens in a program and a white man tells us "it's fine it worked for me" I'm left scratching my head at how quickly people have flipped and went "Oh, well maybe we were wrong!"

The base monthly rate for a similar seasonal role is $3,672.00 - $4,643.00. These kids if working a full month make $336 at a max rate. Less than 10% of the low end for the same amount of work. (I'm sure it's not exactly 1:1, but still) This incentives the over policing and incarceration of poc.

I like what you’re saying in this thread, but just want to correct one point here. The most a firefighter can make in camp in a month is roughly $1050 (daily pay + incident pay). I know this doesn’t negate your larger argument, but it does allow folks to parole with a significant amount of money.

incentivizes* This might be a wild idea, but the compassion and rehabilitation opportunities that are given to the kids giving a 90% discount to the state should be available to all prisoners. That's my "wild" theory.