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Speaking with a primary school teacher who mentioned that students are coming to school in nappies, a lack of both fine and gross motor skills, not able to hold things for long periods of time, struggling to see, and is having discussions about what a book is. It's dark times.

I agree, the shift does need to be back on parents, but if they haven't done it in 4/5 years, what is a school telling them going to do? They would just hate us for moaning at them.

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I think in some cases they expect their daycare provider to toilet train their child. I know there are a whole lot of sensory issues with toilet training autistic children but that doesn’t cover all the nappy wearers presenting at the school. Maybe health visitors are the answer?

Good point, what we're not hearing about in this big, important discussion, is what the pre-schools are doing about this. Are the chn who are coming not toilet trained and with no basic manners not going to preschool? Is that what the issue is?

I feel as we’ve moved to most parents working and most tiny peeps being in care settings we’ve inadvertently deskilled parents and childcare is something some now feel you need have qualifications for. We have to empower parents to parent.

The experiences of my fellow 3yo wranglers is very mixed: Some pre-schools/nurseries are v.v. pushy about telling parents to start potty training while others are telling friends their child isn't ready when (IMO) the usual signs are evident. For a first timer, I'd imagine it's very confusing 😕