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it is literally my job to write and analyse about open social media and how adoption of it works, and i dont think that these X vs bsky Discourse posts are particularly interesting? glad everyone has a great time Discoursing about it tho ig

the only real value in post like Gruber's is that he's remarkably dull as a commentator? agreeing or disagreeing with his statements is not meaningful, because Grubers statements are not meaningful: he consistently interprets what he sees on his timeline as a representative of the entire network

that said, what X is in public zeitgeist is determined by how media elite perceive it, not what X actually is, so in that sense posts that are false can still instantiate a shift in cultural perception, thereby making it 'true' but X as the place where the action is was already public zeitgeist

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Also, unfortunately, I think what these “one-person-with-a-massive-audience” folks do is very significant in terms of shifting people around.

yeah, these posts by gruber and newton function more as creating a permission structure. i think the open question is if they are a leading or lagging indicator tho, my sense is that they are lagging in the sense that this permission structure was already there

I think Gruber himself went through a phase of “X sucks, how could anyone use this?” right? So he’s probably just giving himself permission to go back to the mainstream within his own social circle.

(I still want to believe that at some point one of those behemoths who can confidently move millions of people wherever they go will realize they can keep 100% of the revenue they generate if they do their own thing on atproto, though...)