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@mike.contribsys.com

@intertwingly.net How can I learn more about any roadblocks to Sidekiq support in Roundhouse? Giving people the potential to choose their app runtime is super intriguing, removing the GVL for Sidekiq job execution is a massive scalability improvement for CRuby users.

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Sam Ruby

@intertwingly.net

No roadblocks, just things yet to be implemented. Current status: Sidekiq is recognized but not really supported. And there are a lot of interesting design discussions. For example, with Campfire, perform_later can be executed in the same process with no Solid Queue or Redis.

Mike Perham

@mike.contribsys.com

Sure, you can specialize Active Job execution, but I'm speaking of support for Sidekiq::Job users who are not using Rails at all. What needs to be implemented to support alternate Ruby app frameworks and daemons, like Roda, Sinatra or Sidekiq? I'd love to understand more, any docs?

Sam Ruby

@intertwingly.net

In a nutshell, Roundhouse treats Rails (and associated ecosystem) as a programming language rather than a framework, and compiles it. github.com/oripekelman/... is a Sinatra inspired framework. I'm not aware of any Roda equivalent.

github.comGitHub - OriPekelman/tep: A Sinatra-flavoured web framework that compiles to a native binary via SpinelA Sinatra-flavoured web framework that compiles to a native binary via Spinel - OriPekelman/tep

Sam Ruby

@intertwingly.net

I gather that I didn't answer your question, so lets start over. Asking the author a Rails compiler how to support non-Rails usages of Sidekiq is not the right place to start. The right place to start is by understanding that Spinel is a subset of Ruby and if you conform to that subset you can...

Sam Ruby

@intertwingly.net

While there is no GVL, a stop the world garbage collection is still a reality until we start incorporating ractor support. And, of course the same process optimization I mentioned doesn't scale to multiple processes where you would need Redis or equivalent.

Benoit Daloze

@eregon.me

For Sidekiq without GVL, using TruffleRuby seems the straightforward answer, as it is far more compatible than Spinel, and supports native extensions so should be a drop-in replacement for CRuby.