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Lost a friend to the cult, she is full on dysregulated sycophant cult zombie now! She uses all the phrases and acronyms... referring to historical events and or current, that she HASN'T a CLUE on or about, but now has "informed truth" 🤔 what? Present real facts, get gutteral deflection zombie noise

Recognize the huge asymmetry in the reasons why the left and right dislike one another. I'm hated by those on the right because I have committed the grave offense of not wanting people to go bankrupt because they got sick. I dislike them because they want me to be punished for not agreeing w/them.

I came from a household where my mom is a democrat and my dad was a republican. So I came to respect both sides. Throughout my life I have respected a point of view, as long as it was based in fact. If a member of my family was MAGA, I would stop talking to them, because I couldn't respect them.

Unfortunately, I have zero interest in engaging that 50% of the population. I can’t get to the point where this is just political differences. This has become fundamentally and ethical and moral divide that transcends political ideology.

I have republican friends, but they're not MAGA republican friends... If we don't start out agreeing that all people should be treated with dignity and respect, and that all people deserve to live in safety with their needs met, then that's a moral deal breaker for me.

Maybe part of this too is dependent on the ability to have a tough conversation, perhaps about how politics directly and negatively impact me and my family. If this "friend" isn't even receptive to that, then they don't really even respect me enough to be a good friend.

There are still some people in my social circle who are MAGA- but, I can no longer consider them 'friends'. I can be friendly to them- but I choose my friends, among on things, based on a shared set of values.

I've had friends all of my life who are both democrats and republicans. It was never a problem for me up until MAGA came along. I can be friends with someone who has a different view from me. I can't be friends with someone who ignores facts and just spouts lies.

It's easier to hold this point of view when your friends' political views aren't actively harmful to you. You have often acknowledged the privileges you have of being a white male and because of the financial success you have achieved. This is another privilege.

I like the way the Stoics thought about this. Peoples' moral failures aren't any different from a leaf floating down a stream. They're acting according to their nature, the rules and laws they perceive, and what they believe will bring happiness. Respond with compassion and reason, not anger.

1) They don't see the world from your frame of reference, so don't behave as though they do 2) Anger will repel them, not bring them closer 3) Rejection and anger will harm you as much as it harms them 4) The only feasible path to a functioning future is harmonious, not divided 5) Do the hard work

People think that remaining friends is a form of enabling these people, but that framing is part of the problem. Imagine if people thought you shouldn't be 'enabled' to think the way you do. How would you respond? Not well, right? You can't treat people like cancer and expect anything to improve

Why would I want to keep some “friends” once I see what they value, are willing to overlook, or when they have proven to be lacking in critical thinking skills? This isn’t arguing over musical or food tastes; people are suffering, struggling, and dying. Sheesh. If they can learn/change, c’mon back.

I’ve got trumpy vendors … I keep the peace and when they say crazy things I say “wow” or “oh my” in a soft voice. They are good people just gullible to the propaganda. We have to leave space for them to leave the cult one day.

Hol up. While I agree with keeping friends and politics separate, today’s politics comes with moral currency. A die hard Trump supporter believes some people be put in cages. I can be friends with a person who agrees with this.

Hard disagree Scott, until we as family & friends start calling these people out or removing ourselves from their lives, nothing changes. These people just like the nazis, need to know their beliefs will be shunned from polite society. My FIL should NOT have a joyous Xmas with his grandchildren

When thousands of families will not get that privilege because the racist asshole they support and voted for has separated and destroyed their families this holiday. There is no way I break bread this year with anyone who supports this. Full stop!

my daughter is a nonbinary lesbian. My in-laws are anti everything about my child. It’s easy to separate when the things don’t personally affect someone you love. When someone’s political beliefs align w/ a fascist who believes that POC, trans, women, etc are less worthy or valuable than white men.

So what if you lose friends? "Friends" should have common morals, ethics, humanity...otherwise, their just acquaintances. That's my opinion, and I don't care if I have fewer "friends." I will not be "friends" with anyone who supports racist, misogynistic policies.

No thanks. MAGA changed everything and completely gone off the rails. Until MAGA is obliterated to the dustbin of history, we are not safe. Resistance must be at every level. They declared this war 8 years ago. Liberals, centerists & anti-MAGA Conservatives just now realizing/admitting it’s a war.

Ever known a drug addict? Ever known an unreformed alcoholic? They cannot be negotiated with or accommodated into being non-destructive. It's not good for them, it's not good for you – not good for anyone. Don't be an enabler. The same goes for people addicted to propaganda and self-serving lies.

But I want to be sequestered from that 50% of the population. Why? We don't just have normal differences over politics. No, my differences with MAGAt cultists are differences over basic morality, principles, and human decency. Politics can be debated. Morality? No, that is an unbridgeable chasm.

The MAGA faithful are so dug in that they defend every racist, fascist or cruel thing Trump does. If you’re defending disappearing people, cutting lifesaving aid to children, endorsing bogus medicine, misogyny or racism, that’s not politics, that’s morality, and finding common ground is meaningless.

Unfortunately, when I try to be friendly towards such friends or family they all assume that I agree with them on their politics. I have tried taking the high road only to be looked on scornfully.

Sorry, I don't agree. I can be friends with people who have political opinions different than mine. Have been for years. MAGA is giddy about human rights violations, robbing the poor to pamper the rich, environmental destruction, cruelty in general, etc.

I agree. Anyone who supports MAGA in this moment, esp with the existence of the Everglades Internment Camp, has values I care not to be around. They laugh at these poor souls being tortured. It's grotesque.

I'm fine without those people. I mourn them as if they are dead. Something inside them died along the way and they are husks of their former selves. I miss who they used to be, but I will not tolerate who they are now. If they become disillusioned, I am ready to help them back over to reality.

While I generally agree with this approach. At what point do their views and support actually cross a line and expose poor character that is no longer something you want to be associated with? It feels like we're close on some issues.

We aren’t talking about differences of opinion regarding tax rates and whatnot. We’re talking about people who want an authoritarian king and cheer for concentration camps being setup and filled.