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otoh, the necessity of opposing the ussr meant that for liberals, questions about the distribution of property were taken off the table. we might want a welfare state for *humanitarian* reasons, but inequality per se can't be a problem--and socialism needs to get written out of the liberal tradition

anyways. give [waves hands] Events in our country, i think it's very much time for liberals to think about the importance of regulating inequality per se in order to preserve democracy. and this should go hand in hand with a much deeper rethinking of our economy.

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Once a year, we throw the richest person on earth into a volcano. The next in line has 365 days to not be on top. This should create any reverse arms race amongst the world's wealthiest to spend as much as possible

Like a bad thing about the US is it taxes you based on citizenship. But a nice thing about the US now is it taxes you based on citizenship so these billionaires can’t relocate and avoid the tax.

To avoid the insane market problems that would arise they can donate their excess assets in the first year to any non political foundation that will liquidate 4% of the assets annually. Hell this way they get to do what they should’ve always been doing, spending that money to make the world nicer.

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The way I think about it, wealth is a form of commodified social capital; it's a quantification of what in pre-money times was determined by networks of social obligations and relationships. Essentially, it is power, and it is bad for liberal democracy to have excessively powerful individuals.

i think it's useful to think about modernity as a kind of disaggregation of power--economic power, political power, social power are not as tightly intertwined as they used to be, and that's good. but they are still connected, and overweening power in any one arena undermines all the rest

Yeah; I didn't get to fit it in my original post, but economic power is highly convertible to political and social power. You either have to reduce convertibility of wealth to other forms of power, or reduce individual economic power. Probably both; no convertibility-reducing method is foolproof.

RE: "rethinking of our economy" Like slavery and feudalism, capitalism is an authoritarian economic system with a few making all the decisions & the workers getting abused. We need a more democratic economic system where workers decide how their profit is distributed. @democracyatwork.bsky.social

This is what FDR would talk about, part of fighting inequality is about denying anyone the means to subvert democracy. And one of the best ways to make the case for democracy to ordinary citizens is to make democracy deliver for them materially.

Maybe, next time (heh), let's tax & regulate people & corps such that no one person or entity becomes so rich they have the capacity to threaten to destroy the finances of, even human-traffic to slavery in a foreign prison, anyone who tries to stop them from breaking & destroying whatever they want.

Yes, but that new and better thing will probably involve UBIs, wealth grants, worker-owned businesses and public/mutual financial firms, not the elimination of private property and market exchange.

As long as you have a state you will have an elite because of the nature of the state. If you think the state is inevitable the question then is what constitution (in the broadest sense of that term) for the state will produce the most egalitarian results

I would love to see the top-down Rentier model of stuff like Uber, DoorDash, etc eventually be replaced by a bottom-up sort of Guild/Co-op system. Same apps. Same services. No billionaire shareholders to feed. (Overhead costs and payouts come out of the shared fund, etc etc).

The Clintons were neoliberals. And it’s been that way ever sense. The way HRC and supporters pushed Sanders folk out helped walk us into this disaster. I remember someone saying Dems had internalized the right’s “socialist” criticism and became the left wing of the right wing party.