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New York Attorney General has sued Valve, alleging that loot boxes in CS2, TF2, and Dota 2 violate New York's gambling laws.

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The way i see it, the secondary market is the problem. It works similar to how Japan circumvents this. You don't gamble for money, you gamble for "points" like at an arcade, then exchange points for "Prizes". A guy next door will buy your "Prizes" off of you. So it's not "technically" gambling.

im not saying it isnt gambling at all and i am biased as someone that does enjoy cs skins but i hate the double standards applied to video game loot boxes vs pokemon cards for example. IMO cs and tf2 are 18 rated games and should be allowed gambling as a result.

I think the card game stuff should be legislated under the same rules I don't think allowing gambling in an 18 rated game should be allowed - gambling should be kept to the highly regulated casinos and be completely separate from everything else

I think this is because gambling is just entirely illegal in New York. The probable outcome is that Valve just prevents anyone in New York from buying keys and then nothing really changes.

I mean yeah there should be actions against this across the board. Though I don’t think saying those games are 18+ is a good argument when that age restriction clearly is not working. Gambling in general needs way way stronger regulation in most countries.

Do people even bother to do basic research anymore? These are 18+ rated video games, with similar mechanics to games specifically targeting children such as the slew of mobile games out there.

it is purely because they have the ability to trade unlike the majority of mobile games. But as i said elsewhere in this thread you could apply the same dumb "but you can sell the items" logic to pokemon cards and the like.

Yeah, that seems to be the main argument being made - that Valve has somehow designed the entire Steam trading system with the explicit intent of it being used by scam and gambling websites.

The casinos sponsor the eSports teams. Most of the trading goes through them. They pay for streamers to promote gambling skins to children. Valve has known about the issue for years, they designed the case opening to be "sticky". They could stop this but they earn millions by enabling this circus