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I wonder if anyone *genuinely* believed that this platform would be that much different from X. I never did. It's not as bad as X yet, but it's still a platform run by a few number of people who make decisions for everybody else on the platform. Power, politics, etc etc will always ruin it

Agreed. But I think the main difference is in the hope of the protocol eventually causing some collective ATproto instances to stand up. Ppl are already trying to do that, such as Northsky operating as a coop. Bsky is run by venture capital and has all the issues of that financial model.

It seems pretty real to me _gestures towards the dozen or so atmosphere projects_. blacksky seems to be standing up a full appview now. doesn't seem like hope or copium when it is actually being built, being used, people migrating their data around. seems pretty damn real to me.

Yes, but Mastodon has a terrible UX and is uninterested in doing anything different. That’s acceptable to a lot of people in tech, but not acceptable to a lot of groups who have made bsky their home. That said, there are also a lot of things about ATproto that suck.