Andrew Tyrrell

Andrew Tyrrell

@southarrowmaps.co.nz

๐Ÿ—บ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ” NZ-based cartographer, actually now Canada-based. Blender, QGIS, ArcGIS Pro, Illustrator. Partial to a good mountain. southarrowmaps.co.nz

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How far can I get using AI in cartography? I drove Canada's Icefields Parkway last month, and want to make a poster map of it. Can AI help, and do it well? I started on my phone, then realised it needed more than that and moved to the desktop. AI-first: Claude, a bit of ChatGPT. A thread... ๐Ÿงต๐Ÿ—บ๏ธ

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Do you have any idea how it feels to walk into a room full of people you've looked up to your whole professional life and be seen not just as a colleague but as a friend? #nacis2026

Some absolutely stunning 3D maps from Maddy at NACIS today. Ooh. Aah. Nice. #NACIS2026

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See you at #nacis2026 next week in Milwaukee! All volumes of the Atlas of Design are in stock and we will have samples at the conference. Submissions for Volume 8 will open very soon!

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Seen at a cartography conference. To the lay reader this comparison might seem legit. Why would you question it? To most in the audience the words What. The. Actual. F&ยฃโ‚ฌ. were voiced. See if you can spot the egregious error.

Honestly, I just donโ€™t really have the time, creativity, or enthusiasm to make something new, which Iโ€™m a bit disappointed about. But Iโ€™ve been going through my projects from the past two years, and Iโ€™m very proud of the maps Iโ€™ve made! I think Iโ€™ll submit a few of them for this yearโ€™s gallery.

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Iโ€™ve got 13 days in which to create and submit a map for the #NACIS2026 Map Gallery before the August 31st deadline. Any requests?

Weโ€™ve been having the most incredible thunderstorm in Vancouver for at least the last three hours, maybe four. Itโ€™s still going. I went down to the beach to watch the show.

#MapsInTheWild at the Grasshopper Pub, Sunshine Coast, BC. This is my first visit to the Sunshine Coast and it definitely wonโ€™t be my last. What a wonderful part of the province/country/world!

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18 years ago, in my first carto class, my instructor said that computers could do map labeling, but they were bad at it and would likely be for a long time. This advice has held true longer than I anticipated.

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Labelling is a system: move one and five others shift too. Claude handles that knock-on tirelessly, but plenty of times I'd be faster by hand. But the main thing I learned from this is that labelling is a part of mapmaking that I love. Doing it through an AI was achievable, but quietly joyless.

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I asked Claude to label the main highways with their official shields, and it told me, confidently, that it could create SVGs "from the official specs". Pushed on the source of those specs, it admitted it was making them up from memory. They were all crap. So I downloaded the real SVGs myself...

How far can I get using AI in cartography? Part two. Can I get AI to label the basemap accurately, consistently, and with cartographic finesse? A continuation of my previous thread... ๐Ÿงต๐Ÿ—บ๏ธ

Andrew Tyrrell@southarrowmaps.co.nz

How far can I get using AI in cartography? I drove Canada's Icefields Parkway last month, and want to make a poster map of it. Can AI help, and do it well? I started on my phone, then realised it needed more than that and moved to the desktop. AI-first: Claude, a bit of ChatGPT. A thread... ๐Ÿงต๐Ÿ—บ๏ธ

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Labelling is a system: move one and five others shift too. Claude handles that knock-on tirelessly, but plenty of times I'd be faster by hand. But the main thing I learned from this is that labelling is a part of mapmaking that I love. Doing it through an AI was achievable, but quietly joyless.

How far can I get using AI in cartography? Part two. Can I get AI to label the basemap accurately, consistently, and with cartographic finesse? A continuation of my previous thread... ๐Ÿงต๐Ÿ—บ๏ธ

Andrew Tyrrell@southarrowmaps.co.nz

How far can I get using AI in cartography? I drove Canada's Icefields Parkway last month, and want to make a poster map of it. Can AI help, and do it well? I started on my phone, then realised it needed more than that and moved to the desktop. AI-first: Claude, a bit of ChatGPT. A thread... ๐Ÿงต๐Ÿ—บ๏ธ

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As a stress test I had Claude update the spec, then rebuild the labels from scratch: spec and data only, no peeking at the previous version(s). It worked, but exposed the spec's own shortcomings: one rule silently dropped labels for some of the main lakes visitors come to see.

Finally, combine them all with the basemap. Most labels are on top of everything, but the National Park labels had to blend into the basemap. Claude occasionally needed prompting to remember to blend, rather than just dump these on top.

How far can I get using AI in cartography? Part two. Can I get AI to label the basemap accurately, consistently, and with cartographic finesse? A continuation of my previous thread... ๐Ÿงต๐Ÿ—บ๏ธ

Andrew Tyrrell@southarrowmaps.co.nz

How far can I get using AI in cartography? I drove Canada's Icefields Parkway last month, and want to make a poster map of it. Can AI help, and do it well? I started on my phone, then realised it needed more than that and moved to the desktop. AI-first: Claude, a bit of ChatGPT. A thread... ๐Ÿงต๐Ÿ—บ๏ธ

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Lakes took the most rounds of iteration. They started as big italics sitting on top of the water. I wanted them beside the lakes, not floating on them. Then I had two lake sizes competing, so I dropped to one. Quiet names set off the water. Simple to describe, many iterations to actually produce.

I asked Claude to label the main highways with their official shields, and it told me, confidently, that it could create SVGs "from the official specs". Pushed on the source of those specs, it admitted it was making them up from memory. They were all crap. So I downloaded the real SVGs myself...

How far can I get using AI in cartography? Part two. Can I get AI to label the basemap accurately, consistently, and with cartographic finesse? A continuation of my previous thread... ๐Ÿงต๐Ÿ—บ๏ธ

Andrew Tyrrell@southarrowmaps.co.nz

How far can I get using AI in cartography? I drove Canada's Icefields Parkway last month, and want to make a poster map of it. Can AI help, and do it well? I started on my phone, then realised it needed more than that and moved to the desktop. AI-first: Claude, a bit of ChatGPT. A thread... ๐Ÿงต๐Ÿ—บ๏ธ

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Rivers fought me first. They curve along each channel, which is lovely when it works. But early on labels were straight, sometimes upside down. The halo on the smallest creeks was so heavy it swallowed them. Fixes: force the reading direction, thin the halo, bump the tiny rivers up a weight.

Peaks looked wrong before I could say why. Two different sizes of summit made every cluster read as lumpy and random. Collapsing them to one weight quietly settled the whole sheet. Then the fiddly bit: an even, constant gap from each triangle, and never nearer a neighbour's peak than its own.

How far can I get using AI in cartography? Part two. Can I get AI to label the basemap accurately, consistently, and with cartographic finesse? A continuation of my previous thread... ๐Ÿงต๐Ÿ—บ๏ธ

Andrew Tyrrell@southarrowmaps.co.nz

How far can I get using AI in cartography? I drove Canada's Icefields Parkway last month, and want to make a poster map of it. Can AI help, and do it well? I started on my phone, then realised it needed more than that and moved to the desktop. AI-first: Claude, a bit of ChatGPT. A thread... ๐Ÿงต๐Ÿ—บ๏ธ

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It started, like the basemap, with my own maps. In a separate chat I'd worked out how I want a map labelled (rules I usually keep in my head) and had Claude write it down as a spec. One typeface, one off-white ink, hierarchy by size, weight, style. Sixteen classes, before a word landed on the map.

What to label? What matters? This is where AI was really useful. The map is for a visitor to the Icefields Parkway, so I just said: "label what a visitor cares about & fill gaps to maintain density". I didn't need to know the data schema & write out definition queries. I asked for what I wanted.

How far can I get using AI in cartography? Part two. Can I get AI to label the basemap accurately, consistently, and with cartographic finesse? A continuation of my previous thread... ๐Ÿงต๐Ÿ—บ๏ธ

Andrew Tyrrell@southarrowmaps.co.nz

How far can I get using AI in cartography? I drove Canada's Icefields Parkway last month, and want to make a poster map of it. Can AI help, and do it well? I started on my phone, then realised it needed more than that and moved to the desktop. AI-first: Claude, a bit of ChatGPT. A thread... ๐Ÿงต๐Ÿ—บ๏ธ

The basemap is geometry: run the recipe, get an answer. Labelling is judgement: What deserves a name? Where does the label sit? Is it legible? Claude could try to place a label anywhere I asked, but deciding what belonged, and whether it looked right, was up to me. So much iteration. So much.

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I figured out a useful generalization hack. I had a high-res railroad network, including all individual tracks. I wanted to thin this down to single lines for my map. I've used some GIS tools for this in the past, and/or manually selected segments. But this time I used some network analaysis tools.