Steve Pittelli, MD

Steve Pittelli, MD

@stevepittelli.bsky.social

Semi-retired Shrink, critic of behavioral genetics,mediocre singer, yoga dude, swimmer, searcher, Daime and other paths, little dog owner, Detroit Lions, 37 year vegetarian. Living in the South Carolina Low Country. Blog: www.unwashedgenes.blogspot.com

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There are many ways to take a study like this but, generally speaking, It suggests that “small but significant” findings in the social sciences are not useful, whether it be horoscopes, behavioral genetics or anything else.

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We cross-referenced the psychometric personality data of ~ 1 million people with their zodiac astrological signs: 1) There is a small but statistically significant effect of zodiac sign on personality controlling for demographic and attitudinal variables

Granted, I’m just a watch the World Cup every 4 years guy, but this 3rd place game suggests teams play way too deliberately conservative. Whatever you say about France’s effort level, they are still a better team than most of the teams that kept it a 2 to 1 game (France scores as I write this).

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37792698/ Genetics of vegetarianism: A genome-wide association study I was discussing this study with someone recently and couldn’t find a link, so I did a little AI search to find it and maybe it’s worth discussing AI in this context, and how it can reinforce ideology.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.govGenetics of vegetarianism: A genome-wide association study - PubMedA substantial body of evidence points to the heritability of dietary preferences. While vegetarianism has been practiced for millennia in various societies, its practitioners remain a small minority o...
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This is a point I’ve made for a long time, with people generally mentioning Fisher, then running away. GWAS have effectively negated the entire premise (based on twin studies and ideology), that traits like this are highly heritable. I am VERY leery of AI, but it at least considers my points.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37792698/ Genetics of vegetarianism: A genome-wide association study I was discussing this study with someone recently and couldn’t find a link, so I did a little AI search to find it and maybe it’s worth discussing AI in this context, and how it can reinforce ideology.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.govGenetics of vegetarianism: A genome-wide association study - PubMedA substantial body of evidence points to the heritability of dietary preferences. While vegetarianism has been practiced for millennia in various societies, its practitioners remain a small minority o...
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pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37792698/ Genetics of vegetarianism: A genome-wide association study I was discussing this study with someone recently and couldn’t find a link, so I did a little AI search to find it and maybe it’s worth discussing AI in this context, and how it can reinforce ideology.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.govGenetics of vegetarianism: A genome-wide association study - PubMedA substantial body of evidence points to the heritability of dietary preferences. While vegetarianism has been practiced for millennia in various societies, its practitioners remain a small minority o...
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pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37792698/ Genetics of vegetarianism: A genome-wide association study I was discussing this study with someone recently and couldn’t find a link, so I did a little AI search to find it and maybe it’s worth discussing AI in this context, and how it can reinforce ideology.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.govGenetics of vegetarianism: A genome-wide association study - PubMedA substantial body of evidence points to the heritability of dietary preferences. While vegetarianism has been practiced for millennia in various societies, its practitioners remain a small minority o...

It added this: A (GWAS) on vegetarianism utilizes large datasets, such as the UK Biobank, to identify specific genetic loci associated with dietary choices. By comparing strict vegetarians to non-vegetarians, research shows that genetics and physiology play a substantial role in food preferences.

Quite annoyed by ESPN incorporating professional wrestling into their sports news. Nothing against it, but I just don’t think it should be included with regular sports, unless we are operating under the assumption that predetermined outcomes are okay in sports (sorry if you didn’t know, ha ha).

These kinds of secret societies shape history and power in profound ways and are protected from discourse by accusations of conspiratorial thinking. There is a whole history of this country that sits behind the history we learn about in school and through the media.

SCOOP: So remember Dialog, Peter Thiel's private society that doesn't have a public website and no public list of members? I (along with a number of other journalists) have just been tipped off that embedded in the code of their closed off website there IS what seems to be a list of some members.

Wow! “Joshua Johnson is an American professional football quarterback for the Washington Commanders of the National Football League (NFL). Johnson has been a member of 14 different NFL teams, the most in league history. He also played in the United Football League (UFL) and XFL.”

I’m making a bit of a joke, but it’s worth discussing some broader issues, here. The first is that “we” in this sense, points to an ideology. I’ve taken a lot of ridicule from what would be considered leaders in the fields of behavioral genetics and my own field of psychiatry for questioning…. 1/

Steve Pittelli, MD@stevepittelli.bsky.social

“but ultimately the uncomfortable truth is that genes contribute to traits much less than we always thought.” We?

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… genetics is not and never was about what “the missing heritability” really is. It’s about the entire mindset of genetic determinism that is absurd on its face and has trapped us into a limited and inadequate view of the world, with selfishness and greed taking ever-increasing roles … 11/

… in our society. I don’t have great solutions, but if you’ve read this far and you have the ability, I ask that you consider spending time dismantling this house of cards instead of adding more cards or trying to rearrange them. Thank you for your time. End/

I’m making a bit of a joke, but it’s worth discussing some broader issues, here. The first is that “we” in this sense, points to an ideology. I’ve taken a lot of ridicule from what would be considered leaders in the fields of behavioral genetics and my own field of psychiatry for questioning…. 1/

Steve Pittelli, MD@stevepittelli.bsky.social

“but ultimately the uncomfortable truth is that genes contribute to traits much less than we always thought.” We?

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… to quantify the harm that this mindset has created over the last century and a half, and while some of it is obvious, the rest is more subtle. When we discuss what mental illness is, or sociopathic behavior or human character, more broadly, and the “experts” are unable to view it outside of … 9/

… a simplistic genetic lens, you get - well you get what we have today. Do I need to elaborate? I’m not talking about technological advances. I’m talking about a collective lack of depth in our understanding of the human condition. It’s a bit frightening, really. So my beef with behavioral … 10/

I’m making a bit of a joke, but it’s worth discussing some broader issues, here. The first is that “we” in this sense, points to an ideology. I’ve taken a lot of ridicule from what would be considered leaders in the fields of behavioral genetics and my own field of psychiatry for questioning…. 1/

Steve Pittelli, MD@stevepittelli.bsky.social

“but ultimately the uncomfortable truth is that genes contribute to traits much less than we always thought.” We?

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… of a hydra. The broader issue is a lack of understanding of how bias creeps into statistical analyses, because the statistics you produce inevitably confirm your assumptions. Statistical arguments, in that sense, are really just an intellectualized way to make your argument seem more valid. 7/

What gets lost in all this is the human condition, which instead gets boiled down to a view of people (and animals) as genetic robots. The things that have to be “turned off” or ignored to get us to that starting point is almost comical, if it wasn’t so sad. And so harmful. It would be difficult… 8/

I’m making a bit of a joke, but it’s worth discussing some broader issues, here. The first is that “we” in this sense, points to an ideology. I’ve taken a lot of ridicule from what would be considered leaders in the fields of behavioral genetics and my own field of psychiatry for questioning…. 1/

Steve Pittelli, MD@stevepittelli.bsky.social

“but ultimately the uncomfortable truth is that genes contribute to traits much less than we always thought.” We?

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… with the possible exception of more controversial traits like IQ. Thus, it always appears that there is a growing body of scientific evidence, when in fact there is a long string of failures to confirm the genetic assumption, with endless machinations to explain the failure away… 5/

Unless you are in the field, with some statistical expertise, it becomes impossible to engage in the debate, since you can always be one-upped with pedantic statistical arguments. While I have tried to point out some of the ways in which these studies are prone to bias, they are like the heads … 6/

I’m making a bit of a joke, but it’s worth discussing some broader issues, here. The first is that “we” in this sense, points to an ideology. I’ve taken a lot of ridicule from what would be considered leaders in the fields of behavioral genetics and my own field of psychiatry for questioning…. 1/

Steve Pittelli, MD@stevepittelli.bsky.social

“but ultimately the uncomfortable truth is that genes contribute to traits much less than we always thought.” We?

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The problem is that it is only acceptable to base opinions on what is considered hard science and, in this case, hard science is the assumption up front that these traits are genetic. This disregards centuries of philosophy as “woo woo,” and frames this debate as already won save the proof. So … 3/

… this creates a science that is transparently biased toward a forgone conclusion. This has always been quite easy to see, when you go through the old candidate gene studies up to the present studies, if you actually take time to read them with a critical eye. Unfortunately, that is seldom done … /4

I’m making a bit of a joke, but it’s worth discussing some broader issues, here. The first is that “we” in this sense, points to an ideology. I’ve taken a lot of ridicule from what would be considered leaders in the fields of behavioral genetics and my own field of psychiatry for questioning…. 1/

Steve Pittelli, MD@stevepittelli.bsky.social

“but ultimately the uncomfortable truth is that genes contribute to traits much less than we always thought.” We?

… the premise that behavioral traits are driven largely by genetics. The reason I questioned it initially was not what some might consider scientific, in the sense that it was based heavily on my intuition and life experience related to the human condition. Perhaps I’ll discuss some of this, but… 2/

🧬 Let’s do a GWAS on zip code. Say, the first two digits are 70 (my choice). You will likely get some correlations if the sample is large enough. What percentage of the variance explained will you get for the SNPs for “70” zip code? Say it’s 10% even with your PCA’s. Is “70” zip code genetic? Now…

Let’s do a within family analysis. Does that bring us down to zero? I think it will hold onto to 1 or 2 percent, at least. Do we have the causal genes for “70” zip code, now? What about the missing heritability? Let’s take those in the “70” zip code without a high pgs for “70” zip code. Next…

Let’s look at their parents. Do they have a pgs that’s high for “70” zip code? If so, we must have a nurturing effect, an indirect effect, if you will, for the genetics of a “70” zip code. There is another possibility, though: behavioral genetics is a farcical field akin to astrology.