Tim O'Neill - History for Atheists

Tim O'Neill - History for Atheists

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History writer, medievalist, blogger, atheist, sceptic and expatriate Tasmanian. http://linktr.ee/timoneill

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... a fascist because I post on Twitter. I actually hate what Twitter (I refuse to call it X) has became under that vile turd Elon Musk. But I debunk bad history and there is vastly more bad history there than over here. This place is nicer, but a bit dull. I supppose the Alice Robert fan club ...

... prefers Mutual Agreement Societies to debate and rough and tumble. I prefer to go where the bad history is and tackle it head on. Also, it seems I was right that Roberts posted her weird misrepresentations of my review, but ... didn't actually link to the review itself. How *very* odd. 🤔

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Addendum: Safe behind her block, apparently Roberts and her fan club are indulging in various fantasies about me. "A misogynist" (I'm a feminist ally and proudly so), and allegedly "possibly either a creationist or a flat-earther" (that's just hilarious, given my background). But I also supposedly..

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... else made at the bottom of my review "calling me out" for alleged "misogyny". Though I can see no such comment. I must say there is something particularly repugnant about those who take the real problem of genuine sexism and actual misogyny - something we see far too much ...

... of over on Elon's merry cavalcade of digusting creeps - and use it as a pathetic rhetorical weapon against anyone who happens to disagree with them while being male. Any woman, or any person, who does this should hang their head in shame. But she goes there. Oh, and she ...

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... the grand total of those is ... zero. I would have thought a medical scientist would be better at counting than that. The I'm accused of "slinging mud" at her. Where? We aren't told. Perhaps she thinks none of her fan club will bother checking my review for themselves. ...

... Given she's making all these claims behind the safety of a block, I can't see if she actually bothered to link to my review, though I strongly suspect she didn't [She didn't 🙄]. But the final barb is the claim my review is "pretty misogynistic". She also hallucinates a comment someone ...

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... this in my reivew of *Domination*, which she had supposedly just read. This makes me wonder if she actually bothered to read the review at all. She then claims I didn't engage with her arguments and just proceeded to "rubbish" her. Anyone who reads my review can see very ...

... clearly that I engage with them carefully and detail, one by one, in a systematic analysis. They can also see I do no "rubbishing" of her as a person. I deal directly with the arguments. She also claims she "gave up counting" my "ad hominem attacks". This is a worry, ...

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It's hard to know where to begin with this. No, she did not block me after I made negative comments last year before I read her book and I didn't claim this. She blocked me back in 2023, when I challenged her about her claims of "Christian book burning" (below). I detailed ...

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... Roberts' attention, she waved it away dimissively with some nonsense about how I had decided I wasn't going to like the book before I read it. Even if this was true, my review wasn't 10,000 words of me repeating "I don't *like* this book". It's a careful and systematic ...

... critical analysis. In the intervening year it has also become one of the most read articles on my site and, if you search for "Alice Roberts Domination", my review consistently comes up in the top results. So it seems I've become hard for her to just dismiss and ignore. ...

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Even if someone were to disagree with any, most or even all of my points, no one could pretend this was some blithe dismissal that didn't engage in detail with the book's arguments. That was a year ago and - as I predicted in my review - when my critique was brought to ...

... expertise and wrote a book on the rise of Western Christendom in the Late Roman and Early Medieval periods. I was not encouraged by some early publicity for this book, or by some previous encounters with Roberts, who has some odd ideas about history, heavily coloured by ...

... her anti-religious activism as a prominent member of HumanistsUK. But I stated publicly at the time that, despite some well-founded misgivings, I would wait until I read the book to make judgements on it (see below). So I did. And I found the book ...

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"Concering Hobbits" - So last week actor/director Andy Serkis kicked off yet another tedious culture war via an interview with the BBC. He's filming an unasked-for bit of IP squeezing by Warner Brothers, who need to get cash from their purchase of rights to *The Lord of the

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... country gentlefolk. These class distinctions and signifiers are so foreign and archaic to the Zoomers that they don't seem to even see them. So, once again, a boring culture war about racial politics erupts around a book that current readers don't seem capable of even ...

"Concering Hobbits" - So last week actor/director Andy Serkis kicked off yet another tedious culture war via an interview with the BBC. He's filming an unasked-for bit of IP squeezing by Warner Brothers, who need to get cash from their purchase of rights to *The Lord of the

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... not racial differences. JRRT's Fallohides and their descendants are the "fairer of skin". They also become the Shire's gentry. So Frodo and Bilbo live rather comfortably in a large hobbit hole, writing books and enjoying visitors for tea. Whereas Sam and his Gaffer - clearly from ...

... the "browner of skin" Harfoot stock - are their dutiful tenents who address them as "Sir" and "Master" and dutifully work for them. The Harfoots are the numerous labourers and farmers, the Stoors are traders and craftsmen, and the taller, fairer Fallohides are the benevolent squires and ...

"Concering Hobbits" - So last week actor/director Andy Serkis kicked off yet another tedious culture war via an interview with the BBC. He's filming an unasked-for bit of IP squeezing by Warner Brothers, who need to get cash from their purchase of rights to *The Lord of the

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... this non-white population was. So the young Ronald Tolkien may well have seen the odd black or sub-continental person in busy Birmingham, but back in rural Sarehole they were essentially unknown. Yet our earnest Zoomers and Americans imagine Tolkien's ...

... Shire as something that never existed in his youth or his imagination. They also see the words "brown" and "browner" in his Prologue and read them racially. If they read on a little further they would see, perhaps rather uncomfortably, that he meant them to signify class distictions ...

"Concering Hobbits" - So last week actor/director Andy Serkis kicked off yet another tedious culture war via an interview with the BBC. He's filming an unasked-for bit of IP squeezing by Warner Brothers, who need to get cash from their purchase of rights to *The Lord of the

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... Birmingham in 1897 were even more so. The idea he was thinking of "the villagers and their children" of this specific time and place as racially diverse is absurd. Some of the sermonisers have assured us that the England of this period was not universally homogenous and ...

... included other races. And they have repeated the common chiding assurance that non-white people have had a place in Britain throughout history. This is true. Unfortunately, the earnest pop history that teaches people this with some insistence is very bad at getting across exactly how tiny ...

"Concering Hobbits" - So last week actor/director Andy Serkis kicked off yet another tedious culture war via an interview with the BBC. He's filming an unasked-for bit of IP squeezing by Warner Brothers, who need to get cash from their purchase of rights to *The Lord of the

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... writing in a cultue (1940s England) that was not wholly, but still *overwhelmingly* racially white European. Further, his Shire was self-conciously and explicitly recalling a very specific and even more homogenously *white* time and place: the rural Worcestershire and ...

... Warwickshire of his childhood. He explicitly noted the Shire recalled "the period of [Queen Victoria’s] Diamond Jubilee” in 1897 and said "the villagers and their children inspired my concept of the Hobbits". If Oxford in the 1940s was very white, the rural areas south of ...

"Concering Hobbits" - So last week actor/director Andy Serkis kicked off yet another tedious culture war via an interview with the BBC. He's filming an unasked-for bit of IP squeezing by Warner Brothers, who need to get cash from their purchase of rights to *The Lord of the

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... waved them away. They had found a form of the word "brown" applied to skin and that was all that mattered. And since it seems everything these says needs to be parsed via race politics, this finding was final: this was a RACIAL designator. Case closed! But this is a very ...

... strange reading of what JRRT says. The idea he would have seen the distinctions he refers to in passing in terms of *racial* differences without making this clear is hard to credit. Perhaps the Zoomers and well-meaning Americans find this hard to understand, but JRRT was ...

"Concering Hobbits" - So last week actor/director Andy Serkis kicked off yet another tedious culture war via an interview with the BBC. He's filming an unasked-for bit of IP squeezing by Warner Brothers, who need to get cash from their purchase of rights to *The Lord of the

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... other two ancestral groups: the Stoors and the Fallohides; with the latter described comparitively as "fairer of skin" than the other two. By the time the book is set most hobbits had a mix of these groups in their ancestry and JRRT describes their general attributes in ...

... this period, though his only note on complexion there refers to them being generally "red-cheeked". The very few sermonisers who bothered to notice the important difference between "brown of skin" and "browner of skin" and the other important distinctions noted above ...

"Concering Hobbits" - So last week actor/director Andy Serkis kicked off yet another tedious culture war via an interview with the BBC. He's filming an unasked-for bit of IP squeezing by Warner Brothers, who need to get cash from their purchase of rights to *The Lord of the

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... few of these semons gave a supposed quote, which was usually that hobbits were "brown of skin". Except what JRRT wrote was that *some* hobbits were "*browner* of skin", which is subtly but significantly different. Firstly, *which* hobbits? He's talking at this point about...

... the three ancestral groups of hobbits that entered what was to be the Shire a full 1,400 years before Bilbo and Frodo's time. And here he's specifically talking about the ancestral Harfoots. So not "brown" but "browner" - but "browner" than ... who? Well, browner than the ...

"Concering Hobbits" - So last week actor/director Andy Serkis kicked off yet another tedious culture war via an interview with the BBC. He's filming an unasked-for bit of IP squeezing by Warner Brothers, who need to get cash from their purchase of rights to *The Lord of the

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... a very, a very white [place]". This could not stand! Within hours I saw short-form videos with outraged Zoomers asserting that the Shire was racially diverse, that JRRT "said the hobbits were brown" and even that he detailed "black hobbits". Some raised themselves to the ...

... height of self-righteousness and, copies of LOTR in hand, proceeded to lecture the wicked Serkis on hobbit lore. Their text for these sermons was almost always JRRT's Prologue "Concerning Hobbits", which is the source of the often-repeated "brown hobbits" claim. Only a ...

"Concering Hobbits" - So last week actor/director Andy Serkis kicked off yet another tedious culture war via an interview with the BBC. He's filming an unasked-for bit of IP squeezing by Warner Brothers, who need to get cash from their purchase of rights to *The Lord of the

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... There was once a day when noting that Tolkien was insprired by what he called "Northerness" and that the Shire was "very white" and highly insular would not have raised any eyebrows. But this is not that day. While anti-wokesters on certain platforms rejoiced at Serkis' ...

... words, elsewhere (mainly BlueSky and TikTok) there was wrath. Abuse was poured on Serkis, largely ignoring his final comment about diversity being fine "when relevant". Particular high dudgeon was reserved for his observation that the Shire "feels very, very much like ...

"Concering Hobbits" - So last week actor/director Andy Serkis kicked off yet another tedious culture war via an interview with the BBC. He's filming an unasked-for bit of IP squeezing by Warner Brothers, who need to get cash from their purchase of rights to *The Lord of the

... Rings* by taking a bit of backstory told in summary in part of one LOTR chapter and stretching it into *The Hunt for Gollum* - "like butter scraped over too much bread", as Bilbo would say. Serkis plays Gollum and is directing. Asked about the film's (so far) "almost ...

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Very little. The Holy See is (adjusted for inflation) the single biggest funder of astronomical research in history. As for Galileo, he was found guilty of suspicion of heresy, spent one day in gaol, and the rest of his life living in a palace, and continued to publish heliocentrism around Europe.

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