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au contraire my take on nixos is that I do understand it and therefore think it is objectively bad

and yet:

actually okay to make a serious take: probably my most steaming "nixos is bad" take isn't absolute it's that people way overuse nixpkgs service modules and treat nixos like an orchestrator when it rly rly rly isn't

more serious take: the module system used in nixos is horrible, slow, and unintuitive

I think that is undeniably true, it’s really bad But also like. There is no reason to run most things as systemd services when container orchestration exists

depends on what you mean by container orchestration docker compose is evil, and I think you can get very far with systemd-maxxing (depending on what you're hosting). I've never actually used kubernetes so I can't speak to that

nixos provides a decent way to make systemd less awful!

i'm not talking about real sysadmin stuff though i just mean like fixing hibernate on my framework 13

that’s real sysadmin work imo but the most fucked up thing here is using hibernate

it _almost_ does (the merit of 1:1 wrapping systemd config with nix equivalents is up for debate, but at least nix lets you use variables in them), but then puts all your config in a massive fixed point with fake namespaces that takes 10s to evaluate

yeah but normal systemd puts your config in 10 million different files

yeah, system.forbiddenDependenciesRegexes = [ "docker-compose" ];

however just use k3s

K3s is pretty nice and works well enough it NixOS. Systemd is fine for personal things that’ll never need to scale imo (jellyfin, transmission, etc)