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it is a really bad sign that people are using a concept from a book about how opposition to machine slavery produced an ironic world of brutal feudalism, human cattle breeding, and mass human misery as a metonym for their sociological aspirations.

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im sorry but are the Butlerian Jihad people supposed to be the good guys here bc uhh i think i gotta head out

unfortunately, you have fallen for the trap of treating the social discussion about the entire book and not just ”they gave up their thinking to a machine” Like if someone only used the bell riots to discuss star trek

I mean, no, I have not, I think the world these people desire is what I said.