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I appreciate the sentiment here, but it is only honest to say that the United States will never be the same again. The U.S. that led the world in scientific research in so many disciplines is done. It may be possible someday for some to be rebuilt, but why would any other country trust us again?

David Ho@davidho.bsky.social

This is the most astonishing graph of what the Trump regime has done to US science. They have destroyed the federal science workforce across the board. The negative impacts on Americans will be felt for generations, and the US might never be the same again. www.nature.com/immersive/d4...

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Been thinking about this lately in terms of Planck's Principle, summarized as, "Science progresses one funeral at a time." This time, the funeral is for the US Science Community writ large. When we rebuild, there won't be nearly as many tenured Old Heads obstructing breakthroughs from the New Heads.

The big problem for me is there was an attempt to restructure the flaws of the constitution after the civil war yet the USA really dropped the ball during the reconstruction era. And a lot of the problems today have their roots in that failure.

Because Americans are going to fight hard to earn back that trust? Because Americans haven't given up and are intent on showing the world that theirs is not a history of always being right, but rather never surrendering? The resignation and defeat I've been seeing in Americans is what's scaring me.

I'm not defeated, I'm just pragmatic. It doesn't mean all is lost, just that there isn't the same hegemony on the other side.

if you’re making a flat observation that America will no longer enjoy the same hegemony it once had, I agree. Those days are over. Though I’d argue they were waning for many years anyway. But the meaning of that loss in dominance is not clear. And America still holds a ton of power.

As a Canadian, I was expressing what I hope Americans will do next, regardless of the outcome. I’m hoping that they won’t make restoring hegemony the goal, but rather strive to regain trust through bold and principled action. Hegemony may be dead, but leadership is still on the table.

Up until the first Trump term, I used to think, this is the USA: they have the will/potential (and resources) to bounce back after course correction over a couple of terms. It’s looking less likely every passing week. US will never be the same. At least from the perspective of rest of the world.