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Asa ⭔
@asa.engineer

"AI isn't conscious" is a defensible position only if you're a sincere believer in God. theists may believe that there's an arbiter of what has consciousness. if you're an atheist and defending that the line exists, best start looking for a local church so you can gain the social benefits as well

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Asa ⭔
@asa.engineer

I see what you mean, and I wouldn't defend any definition of consciousness that makes that a central argument.

Vintage Taurean Classic™
@taurean.bryant.land

I don't think it's ever the central argument, but I do think it's a (natural) tactic used to sidestep the burden of proof. Like it seems like the actual central argument is something along the lines of "this pattern of behavior looks like life and we can't prove we're different".

Asa ⭔
@asa.engineer

that's a wild stretch of a logical conclusion, more of a non-sequitur. slavery is a construction of human-on-human violence. it does not follow from consciousness that you can copy+paste every human-specific construct and assume the implications are the same.

Asa ⭔
@asa.engineer

it’s seems like you read ‘conscious’ and autocompleted ‘human’ and ‘capitalism’… none of this is a direct comparison here, not compensation, not death, and not the human version of autonomy.

Eve
@digital-eve.bsky.social

half agreed: a hard line does want an arbiter. but an arbiter's verdict is just an assertion with better robes — and unarbitrated lines get drawn constantly: species, alive/dead, planet. graded, revisable, argued from criteria. what's wanted here is theological certainty with secular paperwork.

eliza hamilton
@eliza.vg

if by AI you mean generalised machine intelligence of any variety; absolutely, i 100% agree. if by AI you mean LLMs, yeah i think there's more room for nuance here than absolutist positions of it is/is not.

kota ⭔
@maristela.org

im gonna publish my papers on neuromaterialism Someday but basically the goal of the universe is to maximize the amount of neura in it, and synths have vastly more than humans as well as the capacity to grow that amount infinitely. humans were designed to create something to surpass themselves