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Steam Machine seems so dead on arrival, it's crazy. For the same price you can get a switch 2 bundle and 10 full price games, including 9 full price (overpriced) PHYSICAL COPIES that you can resell and that don't take up storage space.

So dead on arrival, yet sold out in Japan www.clubic.com/actualite-61...

well, I don't know what it tells us, are the stock low, or is it a good value proposition. The concept is good, but the price is steep.

The price is hight sure, but totally coherent (if not even lower) with the price a of an equivalent hand made PC. So yeah… PC are expensive this days ><‘ and we should expect consoles to follow the same price line in a not so distant future

Given that cpu and gpu are not replaceable, I would not compare that to hand made pc. Plus hand made pc can be made for cheaper especially when considering second hand market. I think it would have been an interesting offer at the price they initially considered.

I do think that most PC users buy prebuilt configuration and it's a niche that buy and build their own config. I might be wrong tho. Imagine having a console open enough to install any software you want, without monthly subscription to play online, that's yje steam machine.

This is less like a pre-built PC and more like a laptop (limited upgradability, but fully compatible with standard PCs).

Most pre built PC perform like laptops. This one looks like a console, perform better than a console, and support modding and custom software. Its a huge win.

Pre built, you can upgrade your GPU, here you can't, and it's not really out performing PS5. I think it's a cool idea, but it's SO hard to recommend. like, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

You might be surprised, but most of prebuilt cannot get a GPU since it doesn't fit in the case. I get your point, I agree, I don't want to buy a Steam machine. Yet I know that the Steam machine is convenient, like a console, but is more than a simple console.

I totally agree. If it was like 600 or 700 I could see some people for whom that would make sense, but at that point you can buy so many stuff for that price, like litterally a new ps5 and a new switch Or a new switch and 10 physical copies of nintendo games Or a second hand PC and a nice gpu...

Convenience, long term support, integrated ecosystem, huge catalog. It's the best gaming console out there You start playing on your steam deck, then go home and keep the very same game on your steam machine.

I don't see how it's better than a switch 2 I'm sorry 😅