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There’s a great book called ghost Wars about how this was Al Qaeda’s real goal—to strip us of our humanities and divide us.

DHS just made it easier to see the rot within the immigration system. The PRE-DHS INS/USCBP were no different than the current ICE/CBP. Just harder to recognize.

As we approach the 25th anniversary of 9/11, keep in mind that what would be called The Patriot Act had been drawn up a couple of years earlier, just waiting for the right justification to put it into play.

And paralyzing fear and grief.

Well I think given how much the United States has lost from its various adventures in the region that it likely was has been the success he wanted - albeit in quite a different manner than he would have predicted.

And Bush started a war with the wrong country because he was best mates with the right one.

democrats never dial anything back fear works

I didn’t like the extra security. I can say that we haven’t had another 9/11 attack, but was it worth the freedom we gave up. I would say no, but others would argue yes.

Anyone who even remotely “looked Muslim” got treated like a terrorist. Including Sikhs, for example. Nothing was united after 9/11 except for white hatred and violence

When I was in law school, there was a joke about 'the emergency exception to the warrant" requirement. That evolved just as you said-- now it's the 'possible immigrant' exception to the warrant requirement.

yes the saudis didn't even have to buy bombs, just drove planes into buildings and the usa government did the rest

So, in a way, the terrorists were successful beyond their wildest dreams.

9/11 also gave us 24 hour news networks as we currently know them. It is hard to remember they used to be totally vanilla background noise, not animated comment sections.

i guess the 9/11 terrorists got some of what they wanted... eventually.

The stone blocks cutting through the sidewalks was a sign of let’s go overboard and see what happens.

In that way it was a wildly successful operation. And it was just the beginning: FSB's 'russia today' hadn't even begun airing in America & "social" media was barely a scifi concept... Osama et al really brought on the US' downfall, by cementing conservatives' hold over the nation & its narratives

Wasn't this all triggered by the Patriots Act? 9/11

The over the top response to 9/11 ultimately brought us heightened racism and xenophobia, the mainstreaming of white Christian nationalism, ICE, and Donald Trump.

And we were lied to. Air in NY was horrible. Trump did not get carried out by fireman. Rudy lied. Just another sociopath.

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