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One thing I've been toying with, instead of talking about "PDS" and cryptic nonsense like that is: Atmosphere Service Provider, like an ISP but for the social internet. Part of the motivation is that "Sign in with Atmosphere" only works if people have seen that before.

B. Prendergast@renderg.host

Log in with Blacksky Log in with Bluesky Log in with Eurosky Log in with Gander Log in with Northsky Log in with Pckt Log in with Social Selfhost Log in with Wsocial Log in with hello you still there??? OR… Sign in with #Atmosphere πŸŒ€ wecanjustdothings.leaflet.pub/3mlv5oijn5s2q

That is to say we should be more or less mirroring the layering of another protocol in communicating to normal people? I have said (and am not unique in saying) that each time another layer gets added to the stack there's a cambrian explosion then consolidation (eg TCP -> AOL, HTTP -> Meta) - ...

The ATProto move is a push to at minimum reboot the explosive stage (and maybe keep it open this time) - if we want to talk about this we say atmosphere runs on internet to mirror "the net runs on your phone" -> "facebook is a website" layering?

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Sorry, I'm not sure I get what you're getting at :-/ People don't think in terms of layering. "The internet" is all the stuff that's in your phone. The social internet is just the social part of that.

ok fine my point is that there is a level of clarity when talking about it as layers casually to normies, as layers in a socioeconomic history, and as layers in a technical discussion, all with their own way of saying it. The atmosphere runs on the internet feels like a clean way for the first one