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A retired friend was remembering when there were departmental secretaries at universities who basically project managed the departments. You could give them handwritten documents, and they would type them up. He was shocked when I said it didn't work like that for female academics.

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In a similar vein, my sister refused to take typing in 1970s high school because she wanted to avoid being pigeonholed into secretarial jobs. This slowed her down somewhat when keyboards sprouted everywhere. But it did not keep her from founding what became a prosperous company in telecom.

How retired is he? I think I caught the tail end of this era when I was a student but it was gone by the time I became a lecturer. (The local admin staff are still essential but not in that way.)

Or even clean up after events. So many aspects to this! An economy of favours, where the favours women do aren't recognised; they're just expected free labour. Being held to different standards. Labelled a troublemaker if you object or don't comply. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

As a professional industrial cleaner in the 1980s, who did a lot of work in the university, shampooing carpets etc., I quickly learnt that the power and authority in a department lay with the professor's secretary

I’m trying to understand the point you’re making here. Is it that women had more power on the 80s as secretaries to profs than we do in the 21st C. as actual profs?

No, simply that the real power in a university department in he 1980's was in the professor's secretaries office not in the professor's office but the male professor was credited as head of department with that power. The women didn't get the credit they deserved

When I started my first role after my PhD (in about 2003), I was immediately asked to organise the washing up after the group meetings. My supervisor also used to ask either me or a female PhD student to do his typing if his secretary was away. Never asked a male student or postdoc...

In my observation of AI chatbots: women are not used to being validated. We also have the bullshit radars of an oppressed class. Sycophancy is annoying but a refreshing change. For men, sycophancy builds the validation of the patriarchy to dizzying heights.

Because admin staff were mostly women, female academics were considered equivalent. There to perform service, not to undertake intellectual work. Of course it was more complex than this, but that's the broad picture. #AcademicSky

It is the same in business. If the meeting features attendees all at the same level, the female attendees will be the ones asked to make coffee or hand out printed decks or do other admin work while the guys networked. I would simply say no, thank you. And, of course, be labeled 'difficult.'

An undergrad professor once shared that at one of her previous offices, she'd often have students asking her to make copies. Initially, she thought they just wanted help working the copier but eventually realized that, despite her having her own office filled with books and it saying "Prof. [Last