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Wtf on kafkaesque parallel, frontend awfulness or both? πŸ˜‰ I don't want to sound clickbaity here, but I imagine the commentary on that could be a worthy discussion if made into a solid, non-emotional panel on a conference led with good speakers from various backgrounds.

Not clickbaity at all to me πŸ˜‰ Wtf on yet another folk bashing what they probably lack knowledge/experience in. (too many points relate to backend/architecture to consider him a "frontend engineer"). I despise frontend devs bashing backend - and vice versa - equally the same. Learn first...

Number one reason to have "us and them" in terms of frontend and backend engineers? Our way or your way (or the highway)? Bashing the other side. Comparing any platform to Kafkaesque (the author, not Apache kafka πŸ˜›) is just dumb. I mean it. Feel free to bash me πŸ˜›

I wouldn't dare bashing that, especially when I sit firmly in the Swiss army knife, T-shape, full-stack, close co-op between frontend/backend or call-it-whatever camp where such divisions are simply and always counterproductive.

Sounds like a good environment πŸ‘ As a rule of thumb I respect people who possess the knowledge I'm lacking (if incompetence, then at least a conscious one).

I must mention @oskardudycz.bsky.social here: an extraordinarily knowledgeable dude. Yet, he seems to be totally free of any technical prejudice. Open-minded. If something really is a neat solution, he states that backend (in general) should pick it up from frontend. Pure opposite of ignorance.

Funny story β€” for quite a long time I considered @oskardudycz.bsky.social an expert on a level where I, for unknown and stupid, reasons, assume people are unapproachable. And then, listening to many of his talks, I learned Oskar is really a cool and laid back guy I wouldn't be afraid to talk to πŸ˜‰

Guys, you're making me blush! Still, I also have my superstitions; I once quit my job, after being forced to use Pearl πŸ˜€ Ok, another factor was also included: using Pearl to remove copyrights for some PHP CMS OSS project. Both factors equally made me quit πŸ˜