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Friendly reminder that Duolingo was initially concieved to trick people into translating articles for free, which they later used as training data for MTL algorithms. Duolingo's primary purpose has NEVER been about teaching you a language, even from the start! slate.com/technology/2...

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It really irks me when people share their 300, 600, 1000 day Duolingo streaks but still don't know how to use Japanese. Here's an explanation for why apps like Duolingo don't work for learning to any fluency. jtalkonline.com/why-apps-lik...

I took 8 years of Spanish and still can't speak it so the school system isn't exactly crushing language learning either, at least there's not unpaid labor involved?

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Classes tend to just spread the material too thin, but it's pedagogically sound. Any non-scam course will teach you the grammar, structure, basic cultural concepts and such. But to acquire a language you need a lot more input than what any class will give you 95% of the learning is out the classroom