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I'm pretty sure that Copilot is just a nice face on top of some OpenAI API Calls... so... yeah. Even sadder.

The Google and Microsoft non-app numbers might include users forced to use their AI tools. So its probably even less.

I think you may be neglecting the fact that these apps are not the real product. They are a demo of the real product, which is not a chatbot, but the models themselves which are being used behind the scenes at many companies to replace or augment human labor.

Meant to start that with - super interesting! Crazy how many people use ChatGPT

That's because sales force doesn't disclose it, Microsoft says $13bn in annual revenue from Ai which is pathetically small and includes literally every single Microsoft product that makes any money from AI including the cash they get from the oAI revshare. Teeny tiny industry!

Is there a historical example of a tool to discipline labor that wound up being too expensive? That feels like the closest parallel case.

It sucks to me that they seem ok with this naming collision. They are clearly, imo, favoring the general purpose one just because it has a higher market cap. GitHub Copilot was first and I know people actually use and like it. I use Claude more now I guess but still think (GitHub) Copilot is good

Well cool you might want to include that in your piece then instead of saying “the app and the site” if you have those numbers. Its BANANAS how hard its being pushed in the software industry and it’d be great to have a reference to how much is talk and how much is real.

Tencent opened up DeepSeek to 1.4 billion WeChat users. paywall: www.bloomberg.com/news/article... Rest of the world isn't ignoring AI. #AI #WeChat #DeepSeek

I am going off of more than vibes

Funny thing about gen AI is, that almost anything I would actually use one for, can be done locally on my machine, in a way that doesn't make any revenue to anyone. Big proprietary models are still better with some tasks like coding, but with some performance gains, that gap is closing fast.

Yep all of our programs at work are 'Word with Copilot' but I haven't gotten an email or so much as a popup telling me what copilot is or what I might use it for.

was about to say this. copilot is also on like every modern windows install and pins itself to the taskbar. 11 million is crazy low on comparison

Ed! Hey Ed! Did...did you tell them to Pokemon Go To Hell? Bwahahahahaha get it? like Hillary? get it? heehee ok I'll leave sorry

Is the CoPilot number ALL users including businesses? They tried to push aggressively it to my employer during our current renewal and we shot it down as we were even using our existing licenses.

Especially because it keeps moving around on my Android. In Messages, it's now floating right beside the floating "new messages" button, and the same colour. Accidental touches make one a "user," I guess.

- Grok promotes your posts to more users based on the number of prompts or swastikas you used. - Gemini gives your phone an "iron dome" that protects you from cyber criminals and terrorists alike. (unless Israel wants to do the terrorism) Feel free to take my ideas guys! You were going to anyhow.

AI Sponge is the ONLY good thing ever to come out of GenAI www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_KG...

Anyway, that's not very important for the big picture here. They are investing billions because they think they can reach AGI soon (and change the whole economy), not because of their current chat app numbers. In fact, they are investing billions in companies that only do research for now.

How do you know they are doing any of that let alone that they're doing that in spades. I know about the TPUs btw

They have their own chips that they've designed specifically for AI. They have been doing this AI thing for a long time now despite the recent hype, and they've been able to implement it profitably for some tasks. Also Gemini is becoming much much more efficient than competitors including deepseek.

I hope Google crashes and burns. arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024...

Is Mistral AI even a player at this point? Are they like the RC Cola of this non-market?

That's always been Microsofts way though. Push a bunch of trash-ass unwanted garbage on a captured audience. AI is just their latest scam

I'm no fan of LLMs and generally despise them. But...what is the point of this? Without the thing that eclipses Pokemon Go generative AI isn't even as popular as Pokemon Go? ChatGPT is by far the most well known and talked LLMs and no one talks about LLMs without talking about them...so of course?

We need numbers for how many times someone has said « omg shut up shut up » when clicking exit on a popup offering AI

ah if you knew what a balm these words are to my soul in a time of many torments knowing that these fucking pinheads are going to get their nuts slammed in the car door of consensus reality is soothing

No

yeah it’s just a feeling that the models are more useful b2b than b2c, but i don’t have a reference