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I'm an "A.i." abolitionist. Here's why. gregpak.net/2025/12/19/i...

gregpak.netI’m an “A.i.” abolitionist - gregpak.netI’m an “A.i.” abolitionist. No consumer-facing LLMs or generative “A.i.” in anything. Sure, machine learning in science and a f...

Mike Sand✨

@mikesand.com

21 Dec 2025

I mean, you recognize the problem is marketing and business. LLMs are a technology. And machine learning is a technological breakthrough. Facebook is written in the programming language PHP, it's like looking at Facebook scandals like Cambridge Analytica and saying we need to ban PHP.

Greg Pak

@gregpak.net

I hear what you're saying, Mike, and I think we agree on a lot -- as I note in the post, these repugnant companies are marketing knives as if they're teddy bears. But I still say ban it all from consumer-facing products. PHP doesn't tell kids to kill themselves, for example. LLMs do!

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Mike Sand✨

@mikesand.com

21 Dec 2025

I think we mostly agree, it's a question of terminology. "Consumer-facing" is more important than LLM. An LLM doesn't tell someone to harm themselves. It's the chatbot that does that. (Facebook circa 2016 didn't have any LLMs but had similar negative societal consequences.)