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Andy E. Nystrom 🇨🇦
@andy-e-nystrom.bsky.social

As Marvel writer you'll probably appreciate: As part of seeing what it gets wrong, I asked ChatGPT to create a Handbook style profile on Forbush Man; in his history it claimed that he crossed dimensions and met the Inferior 5 which sounded plausible as an intercompany crossover but didn't happen.

Mike Sand✨
@mikesand.com

I mean, you recognize the problem is marketing and business. LLMs are a technology. And machine learning is a technological breakthrough. Facebook is written in the programming language PHP, it's like looking at Facebook scandals like Cambridge Analytica and saying we need to ban PHP.

Greg Pak
@gregpak.net

I hear what you're saying, Mike, and I think we agree on a lot -- as I note in the post, these repugnant companies are marketing knives as if they're teddy bears. But I still say ban it all from consumer-facing products. PHP doesn't tell kids to kill themselves, for example. LLMs do!

Mike Sand✨
@mikesand.com

I think we mostly agree, it's a question of terminology. "Consumer-facing" is more important than LLM. An LLM doesn't tell someone to harm themselves. It's the chatbot that does that. (Facebook circa 2016 didn't have any LLMs but had similar negative societal consequences.)

Pie Is Damn Good
@pieisdamngood.bsky.social

We must negate the machines-that-think. Humans must set their own guidelines. This is not something machines can do. Reasoning depends upon programming, not on hardware, and we are the ultimate program! Our Jihad is a "dump program." We dump the things which destroy us as humans!

cluftnyc.bsky.social
@cluftnyc.bsky.social

Thanks for publishing this on your site, Greg (and for all the threads that have preceded it). I find the cogent, concise articulations of your (and, incidentally, my own) positions helpful and validating. Conceiving of myself as an abolitionist in this area is clarifying my thinking; thank you.

Bucky Underbelly (Robb)
@buckyunderbelly.bsky.social

Amen to all of this. Our CEO has been pushing this HARD for years now, But I'm the one in my department who has planted my feet and absolutely refuses to "find a use for it" in my workflow. I have no interest in de-skilling myself. I'm John Henry in this fight and I'm not putting down my hammer.