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you would think the normalisation of live service stuff, lootboxes and battle-passes in everything, check in daily for your ACE PASS REWARDS etc would make me begrudgingly accept it as the cost of doing business but i've gone the other way. i never wanna deal with this stuff in a game again

Final Fantasy XIV is the only game I (begrudgingly, with much moaning and groaning) tolerate this with, and I think most people would say it's pretty light on those elements. With VERY few exceptions, if I catch even a whiff of that crap in any other game, I will never, ever touch it. Full stop.

ff14 is very funny to me as like. all the rpg stuff is basically gone. that is an instanced game about tightly balanced multiplayer combat trials and raids. but if they stopped putting in annoying engagement traps they would have no reason to charge monthly anymore

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Yeah, like, I do love the game for plenty of reasons, but the funny thing is that playing it for as long as I have has shown me just how susceptible I am to sunk cost, engagement traps, etc. And realizing that has made me extremely averse to ever playing any other game that has those.