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once a year the brunchlords at Semafor host a "restoring trust in news" conference where they unironically platform most of the people responsible for destroying trust in news, then lob softball questions at them this year's lineup is a real doozy (notice the complete absence of indie media)

the people consistently the most out of touch on the very subject they're trying to discuss

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Welker and a Fox News lady are the only people who could even vaguely be considered actual journalists (I guess Murray sort of), and they're both hosts of talk/interview shows. No actual print journalists other than Murray.

yeah they're not actually interested in journalism they're interested in creating a sort of credibility simulacrum