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Listening to today's episode (excellent as usual) and they talk about accusations of things written by AI and name a tool I'd not heard of (Pangram). They claim it's pretty reliable. I feed it my piece from @liberalism.org this week that I *know* is human written because *I* wrote it...

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And it says *100% AI written* with "high confidence." It is 100% wrong. I say... AI detector tools are about as reliable as AI writing tools.

Lol. Hey AI checkers, you're not taking my freaking —'s away. Before AI existed I had set up keyboard combinations to make them, because that's how I write. So this is why they say it's 100% AI. Because 6 emdashes, 1 triad, and 1 ai phrase ("relentless"). Fucking hell.

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Triads. Lol. You mean the rhetorical device that was common in classical Greek and Latin and has influenced the rhetoric of all the descendants therefrom? Jesus.

Also, aren't triads one of the most natural things in human creativity and aesthetics, to the point people literally say "Rule of Threes" as an expression?

I was literally taught triads were the way to give examples. I do only use automatic Word en-dashes mostly, but I find and replace with em-dashes when getting ready to final.

All I'm seeing from these is that if you use an uncommon LLM, you'd sail on through without issue. Bunch of these are very tied to specific models. Not even just companies, but the model itself.

Why does AI write in triads? Because that's a rhetorical technique that's so common it was all over the training data, ffs.

Lol. What garbage. (I *also* have custom keyboard shortcuts for dashes – both em AND en. And also ellipses and non-breaking spaces and hair spaces and … ahem, well, anyway.)

What is additionally infuriating about this is that the LLMs use these technics specifically because people like you — and, obviously, others — produced books, articles, and blogs posts long ago that train their models. They wouldn’t write like this if we didn’t already write like this!

I've had the alt codes for – & — memorized and specifically bought external keyboards that had number pads—even though laptops have integrated keyboards—specifically so I could en/em dash to my little heart's content LONG before AI was a thing. AI learned emdashes from ME.

It is crazy that standard practices of good writing are now identified and labeled by AI as proof of nonhuman writing. AI needs to sit down and actually read a fucking book (instead of ingesting all of them at once).

They're using automated systems to detect automated systems because the automated systems are garbage and wonder why people say their automated systems are garbage.

"Grouping ideas in threes" -- the thing they teach you in journalism or communications school, and writing classes, because it directly uses human psychology. Em dashes are called cigarettes because they're long, thin and addictive. Gee, wonder why AI picked up on it as a pattern?

Fuck there's a reason [word]hyphen-hyphen[word][space] autocorrects to an em dash in every modern word processor. East Slavic languages like Ukrainian and Russian use the em dash grammatically, because inflection can't be handled in writing by a declension-heavy system that makes word order mutable

Maybe SHOUT IN ALL CAPS, slip in dumb misuses—like “rein” when you mean “reign”—smile when autocarrot changes “its” to “it’s” and stick commas where they don’t belong… Maybe then you can use em dashes to space-efficiently separate asides, etc to be seen as an illiterate person vs a bot

I'm not sure that's better. Either they obscure how it is determined, or they say "you don't write like a typical human, so you are not human". Which, if the goal is to make everyone conform to survive, we may as well give in to "AI" anyway. Uniqueness and creativity is what we're trying to protect.

I used them a lot in technical documents. System architecture documents, low level implementation documents, etc. Depending on settings Word will create them if you type two dashes in a row.

What? Triads are an AI thing, allegedly? IIRC I was taught as a kid to try to give examples or make points in a triad (without being taught the name). Plus three always seems like a good number: two isn’t general enough and four is too many.