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OK! I collected much of what I @spookyachu.bsky.social @andreaeyleen.bsky.social (and other collaborators not on here) have said on the Turing test (from critical, gendered, etc. angles) as it keeps being relevant: olivia.science/turing — hope it's useful for others too. Happy Sunday! 🤖💭

olivia.scienceTuring testOn this page are some resources for analysing the Turing test.

"A behaviourist framework is [...] related to the perspective on [cognition] granted by the Turing test (cf. Guest and Martin, 2023; Erscoi et al., 2023). [We must address] when [it] is unethical (e.g. applied to treatment or education, Kirkham, 2017; Kumar and Kumar, 2019)" doi.org/10.1007/s421...

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“The object of the game for the third player (B) is to help the interrogator.” Surely second? And... Do you have the cartoon of two behaviourists sharing a post-coital cigarette: ’how was that for me?’‽

I would love to see that paper, cos I'm seeing several strands of thought that meet in the fundamental notion of the phoniness of “passing” that lead us to interrogate the coherence of abstract concepts such as “gender” or "mind"...

The paper is a preprint on Arxiv. They used a different definition of the Turing test, the one most people think it is the real one. The other two lits are just vibe journalism. I didn't read everything.

Thank you for having the actual imitation game right at the top. Even absent gender (which is non-trivially interesting) the original imitation game is *still* different than what people commonly think of as the turing test given the three person structure and game incentives due to that.