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Welcome Thunderman!

My AMD computer works well but has some 'personality' when booting. My understanding is that this is kinda common. It hangs while trying to load the bios or something early. It is more likely the motherboard but it's annoying.

I switched to AMD since the second gen Ryzen and I haven’t looked back.

I've been AMD for a while now. Intel fell off.

I made the switch back in the early days to ryzen 1700. Been with AMD ever since. Genuinely had zero issues.

no wonder when even Intel cant be honest when sealing 2nd generation of 13th gen as a 14th gen. My i7-13700 is performing equally great after more than two years hammered in games.

I'm still on a 12th gen. When it comes time to upgrade I forsee an AMD going into my system for the first time ever as well.

Ever since Ryzen AMD has become an incredible option again, especially with this 13th/14th gen trash. Don't be a fan of brands, be a fan of good products (which currently is AMD, no matter what some Intel fanboys say)

Oh dear Intel.....

Sometimes the cruft on top is enough to cause corporate collapse.

Preach. Doing the same in the new year

Did the exact same thing for the same reason and that was coming from a 13900k, first AMD desktop in many years but happily been using them at 1U servers for ages, so asides some bad bios bugs from asus, its been smooth sailing post updates.

You won't regret it. Since I switched this year, my PC runs like a snorring cat.

Welcome to the better world (for now). I’ve been using Ryzen for years with no issues. My wife’s intel based PC though…

Big fan of Steve's work. Anyone interested in diy builds should definitely be following the good folks at GN.

I remember when AMD chips were the unreliable ones. I had hoped Intel would rise to the competition, but this is just pathetic on their part.

Intel killed whistleblowers?

Welcome to the family!

I'm seriously considering building my first AMD machine ever. Looking to maybe build one around a 9950X but I'm still trying to learn about AMD's naming quirks and what might be best.

Yeah for my laptop I went with Ryzen 7. I know there’s a patch and a couple preventative work around a but I’m not doing any of that

I’m so glad my laptop uses AMD Ryzen

I'm not disappointed that it happened, because mistakes happen. I'm disappointed that they tried to hide it.

Good on you, I've also been an Intel user since my original Pentium 4. Most the newer models are completely out of stock, but I'm excited to put together the new build with a Ryzen 9 7950X3D!

I had a similar problem with the ASUS laptop I used prior to the machine I had now. Couldn't watch a video on YT without the risk of it BSODing after trying to fix it over and over. Heck, I remember my first clear of Enter the Gungeon was ruined by that piece of crap BSODing on the final shot.

One Of Us!

I got lucky with this one, I think. The only issue I observed was having to click away some shader cache warnings. Once the BIOS updates rolled out I updated and switched to the Intel Extreme setting and those warnings went away as well. Not a single BSOD in any context so far. Fingers crossed..

My last intel was a 6850k that after being patched could no longer be overlocked. When upgrade time came, I remembered that while looking at new CPUs and gladly went with AMD. Haven't looked back since

ARM definitely is making really good progress and I hope that keeps going strong As for RISC isn't the "main issue" with that the associated cost? In which case, let's hope production and other associated cost for that will go doing in the future, too With more (good) competition we'll benefit

Eh i don't know - I've had the pleasure to test a 6700 XT for about 2 weeks recently and haven't had any issues (besides FreeSync being on and acting funky with my HDMI Matrix whenever it switched refresh rates causing the screen to go black)

The X3D chips are phenomenal for gaming

9800X3D hype!

I imagine AMD will have their own failures too, but I am a team red fan.

I was an Intel person, until I had bsod and USB3 controller compatibility issues on the on the x79 platform, I transitioned to an amd am4 platform with an 5950x and I've been loving computing life since, at this rate I don't think I'll ever go back to intel

Yeah. I will remember to buy amd in my next build.

Welcome to the Red Team, been AMD myself for years, not going back.

You won't regret it. My 7800x3d runs unbelievably fast and cool.

Hope the switch goes smoothly for you! I've used AMD processors for years and have ~loved~ the performance for gaming. My R5 5600 still exceeds my needs.

Dude I'll be joining ya. Getting a new pc next month went all in and got the Ryzen 7 9800x3d with a 4090. I'm so excited.

I'll have to stick with my 9th gen i5, I've had it for years.

i am getting an AMD pc soon for this exact reason.

The government should seize a cut of the shares of intel's largest shareholders so that they will actually put measures in place to prevent them from silencing/ignoring whistleblowers

There's genuinely no reason to not buy AMD at this point, I promise you won't regret it

Hop on over! The grass is greener and well kept.

Do you buy built, or build your own?

Intel fumbled this so bad at every level. Everything from the production to crisis management has been a failure.

Too many kids and bean counters in the office.

You want to hear something fun Thor? I recently build my first ever PC, using a Dutch PC part picker. When looking at graphics and processors, i decided to go with a AMD processor due to budget to price performance (On paper at least, i am not good with technical stuff) Best decision ever lol

AMD has been killing it lately (on the CPU side) and I love to see it.

But this is only on a couple CPU's I guess, having no issues at all with my 14900K for half a year now

Welcome to Team Red, Red Team Specialist. :3

gonna try to ride out this gen with my 12600k as long as possible but its super likely im going AMD next mobo upgrade

I have always been on Intel, but I'm about to do a new build and there is no way I'm going with Intel on it with what is happening.

For clarity, previous Build was a 8700K, 32 GB ram and 3080 12Gig. Again the 3080 12 gig is almost as fast as a Ti, but without the bios problems as reported by J2C. Current build 7900, 32Gb 6000Hz Ram (using PBO 2) and the same 3080 12G.

As a longtime AMD loyalist, I was considering switching to Intel for their affordable gpus, now I'm not so sure.

When my 9th gen works better than a 14th gen

As a long time AMD user myself, I can say that even without the Intel failures, going AMD atm is probably the right choice. I've been with them for years and they've always done me much better than Intel ever has

AMD has been the answer for some time now.

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That's wild dude I have only used intel my whole life. Hopefully they can get there shit together dude otherwise I'll have to make the shift in the future as well. Luckily I got the 13th gen cpu so hopefully I can avoid the BSOD issue at least.

Intel has honestly been trash since 13th Gen. Glad you're seeing the light 👍

Swapped from team blue/green to all team read back after covid. If you don’t mind troubleshooting once and a while team red is the way to be atm

I'm surprised you haven't done so already... Even past the 14th gen's bs. If you're making your own pc just go AMD you are just burning money for nothing but brand loyalty since the ryzen 3000 series they have been ahead of intel in terms of price / performance.

AMD has been a good choice for a long time. I'm not fanboying here, I'm just saying that Intel and AMD have both been good for a while. Legitimate competition makes me happy. Customers reacting with their dollars this way - also makes me happy.

It's the first time in my life I'm glad my PC is slow and old.

The shitstorm that intel poured more on had cemented me going AMD on my next build. Which is in planning.

AMD is, not only really good value, but also the top performing dogs rn. I don't think I could see myself ever switching if they keep it up.

Recently got a 13th gen intel and while it's actually been running fine with no issues, knowing that the current chips have a problem that can cause them to fry themselves without a bios update I may also switch over to AMD next time I need an upgrade. Might also swap Mobo brands too...

Yep, and it finally bit the dust recently. He did apply the microcode update, but it was too late unfortunately.

I switched to AMD 3 years ago and couldn't be happier.

Did you run the Intel processor self-diagnostic tool by any chance? If it reports anomalous results, Intel should replace your CPU. Damage to new CPUs seems to have stopped when using most recent BIOS. (Though already-damaged silicon is damaged forever)

Which cpu are you getting? I recommend an x3d model

My first AMD CPU is my current rigs 7950 x3d. Only about 6 months in but it's been a delight.

You'll like Ryzen.

Yep, Intel started making decisions to prioritize profit over engineering when they paid off Dell and other mfgs to not offer any AMD powered systems. AMD didn't recover from the income loss till Ryzen, and in the meantime Intel put money men in charge and engineering second. Coming home to roost.

That issue was fixed a long time ago why are you still talking about it like it's a present issue?

Uh oh..

Dude that sucks! I honestly wonder how this they made such an error.

Still have i5 8600K from 2017. ticking away in my PC. OC'ed to 5GHz and enough for every game I throw at it. Paired it with RTX 4070. I'm hoping it will live until ZEN 6 comes out so I can build a new rig then.

Same, been Intel forever but switched to AMD when I built my new PC in 2021

Yeah, go AMD...better vfm than Intel

Hence why I kept my Intel i9-9900 and added an AMD RX 7900 GRE Sapphire Nitro+. I know, a strange mixture but it avoided the 13/14 gen issue, etc. Horizon FW at 120 FPS in 4K with this setup is fine for me. I’m good for 2 or 3 years then I will transition to AMD CPU. Thanks for all that you do.

Do you have a utility to actually check the temp? I think AMD cpus are good a little over 100c but that's still high enough I'd be a little concerned unless it's only doing it under heavy load. Might also want a load monitor, graphics aren't a good way to judge cpu load

Have you confirmed the temperatures with monitoring software such as HWiNFO? What you've described doesn't sound normal, your CPU shouldn't be doing much while idle (my example with just Firefox open)

Most graphics settings do not impact the CPU, so your CPU would run similarly even at higher settings. Either get a better CPU cooler or reapply your thermal paste. As for your first point, the CPU that can utilise the most GPU currently is an AMD one.

Oxidation? What's going on? Critical pieces should be gold plated at the very least!

AMD had problems in the past as well. But this whole thing with raptor lake is messed up, despite Intel's other problems. Worst thing is they won't replace damaged chips and be like "We don't care, people will buy our next gen anyway. In a few years no one will remember".

I wouldn’t stop going to AMD. Came across this that might be of interest with Microsoft auto hdr not working properly in 24H2 - youtube.com/shorts/2P_V8...

I’ve also made the switch to AMD and honestly I haven’t looked back. Intel are making great moves with Budget GPUs but they need to sure up their quality control of their productions

finally

AMD is the way until Intel figures out the CPU end of the market again. But GPUs are finally starting to look good for them! I just hope that Amd isn't getting lazy from the lack of valid competition. Healthy competition is good for all.

What's the fate of the starforge PCs looking like? Mobo swaps or completely new builds?

I JUST upgraded to a new intel cpu 2 months ago :/ I have the same issues already and this sucks because I dont really bave the money to switch hardware AGAIN

I've been absolutely loving my 9800X3D. Highly recommended.

Changed pc myself. AMD as well with high end gpu and water cooled. Never used something like this before. Quite a huge change.

Something I like about AMD's business is that they actually support their sockets for a lot longer than Intel. They released AM5 recently, but still pumped out another round of AM4 chips despite that. If you bought into OG ryzen 1k, you had 4 generations of upgrades. Baller.

Welcome to the other side.

welcome to team red

You've been saying this for a while now. Waiting for a specific CPU to become available?

I'm debating too. I'm running a Skylake chip so Windows 11 is a no go for me. Waiting to see what Intel does in the spring with the next generation chips.

I have looked to get a new cpu myself but need a new motherboard also. Might get AMD then.

Right there with you. Was AMD forever, finally went Intel and now I'm going back to AMD. Could have saved some money by sticking with AMD.

Been using AMD for decades and probably won't ever go back to Intel. Welcome to the family!

The fanboyism is strong with this one. You either were paying attention to Steve's videos until now or just chose not to learn anything.

Send me the used Intel cpu, I pay the shipping

AMD is top, mate. Cheers!

Had to check which i had. Thankfully it was AMD. Its a bit embarrassing from intels point of view.

i fixed the BSODs and crashes by going in my bios and modifying the P-Core ratio to 48x, which neuters my CPU and caps it at 4.8Ghz. i spent half my dev time just crashing and trying to fix it thanks intel :) you should put an intel reference in heartbound lol

So every time you start a game client it's just

omg i didn't know that intel was this bad, omg i was thinking maybe to change to intel, but now i'm scaried!

I've had a hard-on for AMD cpus for over a decade now and someone call the hospital, because I don't think it's supposed to last that long.

So glad my very first PC build a couple of years back was AMD so I didn't have to deal with Intel's shenanigans.