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I don't know that I'd call it a _fine_ engine but it's certainly serviceable if you take the time to work on it it seems. But I'm a player (albeit one that digs into the engine to get it to run better) and not a dev.

Lol

It’s like a hospital opening with a statement of “surgery is hard” It’s doesn’t build confidence

UE5 isn't better than UE4, but it really all depends on who's using it. I know that game Metal Eden which uses UE5 was designed really well, the game runs flawless and looks really good.

Eh, that's kinda accurate. They're high end features though, and they're also very workflow dependent. They've not really succeeded much at smoothing the edges where either can cause huge performance hits. Those hits also tend to compound existing issues with the engine's tech.

Fortnite does run lumen on console and gets 60fps, but its a software lumen implementation that's really tuned down for perf. Ps5 Pro uses hardware lumen and it looks dramatically different.

Well, part of the problem is that we're seeing stalling out on hardware advances. Everybody is broke, nobody wants to buy a new GPU, but diminishing returns means you need more of an increase to get the same visual impact.

I mean, the current generative AI models use more compute than just doing it the old fashioned way?

A lot of people have critiques of UE (some of which aren't really related to the engine) but this feels like the first time I've seen "AI post-processing" as an argument. I don't think that's right at all. What are you talking about that's "laggy as fuck" ???

For sure! Nintendo Switch 2 simply does this more efficiently, but with less grunt. PS5 Pro and Nintendo Switch 2 have an almost perfect 9:1 perf scale comparing Pro Mode to Handheld Mode, exactly the difference between 4K and 720p. We have a surprisingly balanced generation right now.

Oh I'm a PC user and basically no consumer has the machine-learning acceleration GPUs, I think those existed for like 6 months before being made prohibitively expensive lol. I didn't know that about the Switch 2, interesting.

I dont know is fault entirely on UE5, but waiting 30 minutes for compiling shaders on Gears of wars Eday just sucks, and sometimes playing with my brother lags all the game and the cinematics looks shit, is a great game, but that things make the experience worse

and to clarify, I mean I work on games with UE5, not that I make it.