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As someone who was groomed with good-old fashioned polaroids of adults and a bit of positive attention, I find this vaguely insulting. Kids can identify with adults in images just fine. It's not the content of the smut that's the problem so much as it's being shown to kids at all.

Lorena Bobbitt used a kitchen knife to cut her husbands dick off, unfortunately that means if this person has a knife they are absolutely definitely a confirmed murderer.

theres another aspect this this: how you prove theres any correlation? "a bunch of my fans swear in my pm that they molested the family dog after watching a TF sequence!" dont you say, what an interesting fanbase you are cultivating over there

also also, you know who loves the idea that they're helpless replicators of the ideas implanted in them by porn? rapists and murderers. ted bundy said he was driven crazy by porn and conservatives loved that idea because it meant the problem was something simple and isolable, and not an entire

I was about to say this rings worse than the bullshit "video games cause violence" rhetoric but then I gotta remember, it's the same shit different frame. It can be CSA, SA, or even just standard abuse. No Einstein, a milk gallon didn't brandish a gun over trivial bullshit, my stepdad did!

I once saw scat art on my timeline and it immediately caused me to start shitting my pants over and over and it hasn’t stopped since we need to ban this kind of art because it makes you shit yourself!!! I will not see a doctor.

I was too embarrassed to tell my therapist about being sa'd at my old job, or how I'd wake up in terror sometimes for over a year. Ive never felt comfortable at any point since telling any mental health professional tbh. They make it sound so easy to just not feel shame about this shit

idk why this feels kinda pointed since a few days ago we responded to them saying we were a victim of csa how taboo art doesnt affect anyone and how victims cope trought it- might be seeing shit where there isnt any

...do they not realize that people who want to commit sexual assault will do it, rather than waiting for a piece of kink art to inspire them? What

"if", okay so they're not even speaking from a place of valid concern, they're not a survivor. their motivation is just ick factor and theorizing. cool. good to know this person has people listening to them. what a tool!

Yup. They aren’t a victim, they are just manipulating victims into sending them personal trauma to prove a point and make a list of “dangerous people.” it’s so fucking gross. They refuse to see how dangerous this is both conceptually and potentially to the people they claim to be helping.

"If my father raped me or something, the last thing I'd want is to create and share some art of it online knowing some old geezer would use it to harm another person" Except that doesn't happen... Art is not responsible for someone hurting someone else That person was going to do it regardless-

-of whether or not they found art that "justified" or reflected their actions/what they wanted to do That person was going to groom someone else regardless of whether or not they saw art like that It's like saying we should ban candy because kidnappers may use them to lure kids into vans

Because making fictional porn is both cheaper and more accessible than going to therapy. Talking to friends about such heavy topics can be terrifying, especially when, as someone who was abused, you have completely rational trust issues.

"you can't indulge in the taboo as a coping mechanism, that's not how it works! go see a therapist!" "uhhh i actually saw a therapist and they said it's okay as long as it helps me heal" "i don't care you disgusting freak!"

Yep, I've had that experience with a therapist. She said that as long as I'm not going to act inappropriately towards actual human children, fantasizing about being 12 and horny is unusual but harmless.

I had to unfollow them for this shit, they really just do not stfu about it. Even more fucked up is that they have posted saying they watch their following drop anytime they post this shit. You just cannot convince me that this is anything but weird as fuck and totally self-righteous.

"if you were sexually traumatized, please please PLEASE tell me, an internet stranger, all about it in secret, I pinky-promise I'll keep you anonymous" is such a genuinely deranged request that I'm blown away. like, maybe I'm overreacting, but that feels like it's bordering on actual predator shit.

all it would take is someone sharing their story and either Xeal breaking that promise or blurring out a name poorly and suddenly that person has an *absolutely horrific* situation at hand. I sincerely hope for the safety of their followers that they realize the risk and act with caution.

The fucking logic here. Like did we forget that cartoons also don't make kids jump off buildings because some cartoons can fuckin fly? We banning superman now because Tommy Too Stupid broke his arm?

i'm no artist, but if i was i would be fucking furious if anybody tried to tell me i couldn't use my own skills and my own hands to create anything i wanted. the only reason these artists are able to do this to other artists is because they find the content disgusting. they want conformity.

if you don't like a piece of art, the correct answer really is to turn your head and keep walking. creating callout documents and other hitlist-type actions like this endanger not just the artists targeted, but embolden future auditors of what's "acceptable".

when what's "acceptable" for an artist to create is *nobody's fucking business*, especially not these weirdo culture cops!!! shut the fuck up and worry about your own work, man! the internet gives you every tool you'd need to avoid ever seeing art you don't like, but you won't stop thinkin about it.

"Yeah, back in the day I saw people drawing stuff and making posts putting down anyone who drew anything horny, and now we've got nazis running the country" Somehow I don't think that's the kind of answer he's fishing for, though

I literally follow an artist on Baraag who does noncon futa × loli art. She's talked openly about her CSA trauma and how she legit uses her art to cope with what happened to her. Like, my God man, people drawing pornographic art of their trauma to cope/process/reclaim is more common than ya'd think!

Ahhh stellar logic. " All thing that can be bad if used badly automatically validate calling thing bad because bad potentially!!!!111!!" Food is bad because it's bad if you eat too much or little? Or does it only count if its bad SEXYSTYLE -?

i stopped following this guy a while ago because i got sick of their constant whining. like i literally don't care about this stupid argument anymore. i don't give a shit dude, read the room.