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It’s not *just over his views*, to be clear. The man coordinates harassment to direct toward trans people. He is active.m. His views aren’t some passive interior thing we’re trying to thought-police. He demonstrably aims to hurt trans people, literally and materially.

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I’ve spent time going through Mr. Signal’s posts and replies on here and I haven’t seen anything yet that doesn’t in some way reference stuff from the other place and or the past. Has he done something specifically here, directed towards anyone? If so could someone link that.

I'm sure we should have just moved Hitler to another country until he tried another genocide right? No need to be quick to judge. People who build their life around hating others for no reason will do it everywhere they go. Waiting for them to do it is endorsing them doing it.

Did you know that judging people, is something we shouldn’t do? We’re not really equipped for it. We’re all flawed, every single one of us. But waiting for someone to do something, is not endorsing. Even if you think they might do that something. You said two words that are absolutely key. 1/4

Their life. Just like your life is your life and my life is my life. His life is his life. When we focus on what might happen, in someone else’s life, we aren’t really paying attention to what’s actually going on in our own lives. No one can make you feel anything you do not want to feel. 2/4

Because all over the internet is not here and that’s what must be taken into consideration. That’s a very slippery slope banning people who haven’t violated any of the TOS here. He hasn’t said anything here yet, and yet is the operative word. He will in time, that’s his nature. 1/2

Honestly imagine if this is how this worked offline? "Well Jerk McFascist may have tried to stab multiple queer people in that bar over there but he hasn't done that to anyone here yet* so we have no valid reason to preemptively ban him :(". *he's openly threatening to do that here

This seems to be the thing that the “free speech absolutists” don’t understand. Nobody cares about your privately held beliefs. But if you organize harassment and threat campaigns to drive people off a platform, then the platform needs to make an existential choice about who’d they rather cater to.

and also free speech just means the government can’t kill you or put you in jail for saying dumb shit, doesn’t mean you can’t face social consequences for it from others including being excluded from spaces if the shit you say is awful

Reminds me of that analogy that pops up from time to time about kicking the first Nazi out of the bar who "just wants a drink" because very quickly if you don't, you have a Nazi bar....

Yeah and these people who say something like “You're banning him for free speech” the answer is that free speech allows people to make fun of officials or the government there are dictatorships, a dictatorship will kill anyone for having an opinion against them

Like. Man, if someone is known for shitting on the floor in other people’s houses, you don’t have to wait for him to do it in your house before you’re allowed to take action. You can draw those boundaries now.

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If I went into a store where another customer had previously assaulted me in a different store, tells people I've started visiting a different store, and then goes into the store I've started going to, I'm going to expect the employees will get that customer out of the store, not openly allow them.